How to capture Ghrond as Malakith? is it possible?

[Mr Warden]

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I have heard that Ghrond is must have province in that region due gold mine, soursce of Hekati's scrolls and special building. I try to capture it but it is just impossible. As you know you begin being at war with Skaven minor faction, which needs to be dealt with or player is Fed. It is turn 5 it is time to destroy last Skaven city (not worth capturing imao). After that we have got rebellion at our capital so we rush back home BUT there are beastman hiding in their stupid camps taking big choas corruption ♥♥♥♥ on your land. Beastmean should divide your attention long enough for rebellion to pop. It is turn 8 and Ghrond is under control of Hellebron. We have failed. Now we need to fight her but who would even do that. She is too good legendary lord to pass. Can someone please give me advice how to capture Ghrond before Har Ganesh?

[Mr Warden]

Originally posted by Bruce Magician:

You may have to focus on getting Ghrond first, before taking out the Skaven. Sometimes Hellebron goes for it right away, sometimes she doesn't. I would suggest getting Arena first, then going for Ghrond.

I have not tried it but every DE guids suggest rushing Skaven, because they can just mass produce ♥♥♥♥♥ army and overwhelm player. I dont know if it solves issue. I also always rush Great Arena with single lord but Helli does not give a damn and just tresspasses or goes around.

[Rodritales]

Yeah, I started a couple of days ago and I start cleaning the rat, so Hellebron conque Arena and and Ghrond, and after that declare me the war, so if I have to do it again I will move to the east first, and later to the north for killing rats.

By the way, my campaign crashs at turn 30, I played a battle in Sakven's turn so after the battle the game saves automaticly (legendary difficult so I dont have a backup load) and when the other factions are passing the game crashs and it close. Any idea to recover my campaign or is over?

[Rodritales]

Originally posted by Bruce Magician:

Originally posted by Rodritales:

Yeah, I started a couple of days ago and I start cleaning the rat, so Hellebron conque Arena and and Ghrond, and after that declare me the war, so if I have to do it again I will move to the east first, and later to the north for killing rats.

By the way, my campaign crashs at turn 30, I played a battle in Sakven's turn so after the battle the game saves automaticly (legendary difficult so I dont have a backup load) and when the other factions are passing the game crashs and it close. Any idea to recover my campaign or is over?

Are you running the game in windowed mode or fullscreen?

Fullscreen

[JODEGAFUN]

Originally posted by Mr Warden:

Originally posted by Bruce Magician:

You may have to focus on getting Ghrond first, before taking out the Skaven. Sometimes Hellebron goes for it right away, sometimes she doesn't. I would suggest getting Arena first, then going for Ghrond.

I have not tried it but every DE guids suggest rushing Skaven, because they can just mass produce ♥♥♥♥♥ army and overwhelm player. I dont know if it solves issue. I also always rush Great Arena with single lord but Helli does not give a damn and just tresspasses or goes around.

Those guides are usually for VH/ legendary, where every Ai simply outproduce you. On normal/hard you should be able to take it.

[Rodritales]

Originally posted by Bruce Magician:

Originally posted by Rodritales:

Fullscreen

Try it in windowed.

Nothing changes.... and it is weird, because always crashs when Greybeard's Prospector turn start, but I don't see this faction in game yet.

[Rodritales]

♥♥♥♥ it! I delete the game xD I'm restarting the campaign. I have killed the first rat army, now I will take the city in the north, after my idea is recluting and going to the Big Arena, and after that maybe Ghrond or back to finish with the rats and take control of the initial province

[Fluke]

Dark elves are my favourite. Mine usually go somthing like this.-
Turn 1
Recruit a lord.Attck rats then sack city then occupy.Recruit spears because they are cheaper ( swap for x bows later) mal is lvl 3 now)
turn 2
Move Mal towards his last remaing cities border to secure provence.Recruit more spears.Send your other lord towards the arena.
Turn three
Take your last remaining city with Mal(sack and occupy) and recruit x bows.Search the arena with your other lord.Mal should be lvl 4 now
Turn 5
Move Mal towards the revellion that has popped up near his capital and recruit some units.Colonise the arena with your other lord and get a trade agreement with Helbron.
Turn 6
Force march your genral next to the rebellion (so he gets xp).Attack with Mal.make sure to attack manually so you get 2 battles by letting some of them escape.Mal should be lvl 6.
Turn 7
You need to use judgement here,move all your forces towards the main rat city making sure they can not hit your weak genral.Hopefully there should be a rat out side the city.Attack the rat to draw out the garrison and the army inside.This should be a masive battle and a great source of slave to fuel rebellions.Sack the city and occupy.Rats should be dead now.
Turn 8
There should be a beastman army floating around by now, kill it twice, and rush mal towards the city with gold(if poss).Your other genral needs about 6 to 8 units now so he can bounce around killing rebellions.Recruit another lord at your capital.

Turn 9 and onwards
Get in position to attack gold city.

Things get harder to predict so you have to use judgement.Money will be tight at frist but its posible to have Mal with a full cheap army and 2 genrals with say 6 units each with a mind to getting your first Arc in a turn or 2.

[Rodritales]

One question, I am close to defeat Hellebron faction, if I destroy the faction can I recruit Hellebron in the furute?

[Fluke]

If you wipe the faction out ,the only way is to cause a rebelion of dark elves at her capital. Then peace them out and use diplomacy to confederate her.

There is a mod that lets you confederate defeated lords.

[Mr Warden]

Originally posted by Fluke:

If you wipe the faction out ,the only way is to cause a rebelion of dark elves at her capital. Then peace them out and use diplomacy to confederate her.

There is a mod that lets you confederate defeated lords.

Could you record you gameplay with nvidia shadow play or something else and post it on YT? There are not any vidoes on this subject on yt.