Strongest lord in the game?

[Zav]

Wondering what lords are the strongest in game?

From what I've played:

Maliketh for Battle, absolutley shreds. Consistantly come away with 500+ kills against skaven just by himself. Brutal

Kroq-gar on Campaign and Misc, powerful upkeep bonuses.

I actually love a Lord that gets a ton of kills in battle, but am yet to see anyone come even close to Maliketh in a battle. Mazdamundi barley gets fifty when i really micro him and I thought he was supposed to be POWA

[Jebus]

My personal experience from ME varies.

a fully upgraded tyrion can take on a stack by himself.

Hes the most OP i've personally experienced when it comes to a straightly non-magic Lord of the new world.
only downside i feel, is his mount option.
I prefer to keep him on foot. Makes him more powerful as a tank.

For the old world i would say Grimgor ironhide. Basically the tyrion of WH1.
I dont normally play orcs, But my co-op partners do plenty. And grimgor just shreds, as you put it.

Magic based LL just dont compare at all in my experience. Balthazar gelt gets demolished by any sort of damage, And Macdonald(Mazdamundi) lacks offensive magic if you ask me.

Sure theres the mix type lords like the vampire ones, and malekith, but if locked in combat with tyrion or grimgor, i just dont see them stand a chance tbh.

Funny enough i still prefer the magical lords.

[Aenarion]

I did a ranking based on extensive 1v1 testing, with no mounts:

1. Kholek
2. Durthu
3. Tyrion
=4. Vlad
=4. Grombrindal
=4. Throgg
7. Archaon
=8. Kroq-Gar
=8. Thorgrim
=8. Grimgor
=11. Malekith
=11. Orion
=11. Skrolk
=14. Louen
=14. Wulfrik
16. Franz

Details at this link:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/594570/discussions/0/1480982338954948174/

[gachi is manly]

Malekith is indeed a hyper-killy lord with the combination of good melee, powerful abilities, and strong magic.

Late game Kholek can safely destroy entire army stacks by himself, though. You can get him up to 70%+ ward save and 10% physical resist. Giving him a massive health pool, splash damage, an AoE ability, and practically immune to anything but mass elite anti-large and lots of monsters/characters.

[Zane87]

Originally posted by Jebus:

My personal experience from ME varies.

a fully upgraded tyrion can take on a stack by himself.

Hes the most OP i've personally experienced when it comes to a straightly non-magic Lord of the new world.
only downside i feel, is his mount option.
I prefer to keep him on foot. Makes him more powerful as a tank.

For the old world i would say Grimgor ironhide. Basically the tyrion of WH1.
I dont normally play orcs, But my co-op partners do plenty. And grimgor just shreds, as you put it.

Magic based LL just dont compare at all in my experience. Balthazar gelt gets demolished by any sort of damage, And Macdonald(Mazdamundi) lacks offensive magic if you ask me.

Sure theres the mix type lords like the vampire ones, and malekith, but if locked in combat with tyrion or grimgor, i just dont see them stand a chance tbh.

Funny enough i still prefer the magical lords.

Cant really agree with the magic lords.

Mazda can become an absolute beast, especially with his battle abilites (ruiner of cities and banishment). And his mount makes him quite melee strong, too.

Also, the undead LL Vlad, Manfred and Isabella are maybe one of the strongest magic/melee hybrid Lords aside of Malekith and Mazda in the game. They seriously rock.

Lord Skrolk is also very strong. He won't account for much of the kills on himself, but his summon abilities makes him really, really strong.
Morathi is also not that bad, though she can't compete with her son, of course. Her faction ability though makes here really strong campaign wise. Chaos Immunity for all her troops? Pretty strong imho.


Druthu of the WE is as strong as he ever was and Louen Lonceur is also surprisingly strong.

Finally, Queek while being really trash when facing against cav (sends him flying 24/7) is still a capable melee fighter and his flavour is just great.

[Wyvern]

I'm fairly sure that without items, Durthu is best, but Kholek can achieve crazier numbers on resistances with the right items. Might not be true in just 1 v 1's, but there's a lot more types of combat than that, and Durthu is just good vs everything in comparison to the others(once again, without items, I know Kholek can attain practical invincibility)

[Scrapper]

Queek is good at killing other Lords if buffed for combat. The trophy heads ability lets him slaughter lords/ characters in duels.

[Stanley]

Tyrion by a long shot. He is a dedicated melee char that can get his dmg to the 1000's and stats well over 100 to ma and md.

[Snakebearer]

If we werent to mention LLs, and through a campaigns perspective. I'd actually make a case for Glade Lords due to the sheer amount of additional stats they get from their skill tree. From my own gameplay, I must say that even though I've played all factions, the generic lords of any other faction didn't become quite as OP. :O This is in ME though, there actually is quite a bit of difference between WH1 and ME there.. O.o

[burningmime]

Originally posted by Scrapper:

Queek is good at killing other Lords if buffed for combat. The trophy heads ability lets him slaughter lords/ characters in duels.

I've played a lot of Queek, and I gotta say he's pretty ♥♥♥♥. Cav tosses him around, he has very few specials, and he doesn't have close to the health pool that *any* mounted lord gets, he's slow AF (in multiplayer, you'll *never* be able to engage him with another lord, they'll just dance out of range), he has much lower armor and leadership than other lords... he's just all around a trash-tier lord. I can't decide if he's better or worse than a generic warlord with a rat ogre mount, but he's definitely worse than almost all other LLs (in combat -- he's pretty decent in campaign, of course). Skrolk isn't much better than a generic gray seer, either.

Skaven got the short end of the stick when it comes to LLs. It's OK, they make up for it in other ways.

[Wyvern]

Originally posted by burningmime:

Originally posted by Scrapper:

Queek is good at killing other Lords if buffed for combat. The trophy heads ability lets him slaughter lords/ characters in duels.

I've played a lot of Queek, and I gotta say he's pretty ♥♥♥♥. Cav tosses him around, he has very few specials, and he doesn't have close to the health pool that *any* mounted lord gets, he's slow AF (in multiplayer, you'll *never* be able to engage him with another lord, they'll just dance out of range), he has much lower armor and leadership than other lords... he's just all around a trash-tier lord. I can't decide if he's better or worse than a generic warlord with a rat ogre mount, but he's definitely worse than almost all other LLs (in combat -- he's pretty decent in campaign, of course). Skrolk isn't much better than a generic gray seer, either.

Skaven got the short end of the stick when it comes to LLs. It's OK, they make up for it in other ways.

Skrolk has liber bubonicus and rod of corruption, plus solid if not amazing melee stats. Queek has warpstone armor, which gives a great debuff, and is otherwise dirt cheap+survivable, which can't be said for the other skaven lords on foot. Basically, queek is the prince sigvald of the skaven. Gets knocked aroudn a bunch and survives long enough to keep your morale up for the win.

[Kblocks]

any LL without a mount that isn't monstrous is a LOSER

[StarofTanuki]

Mazdamundi > Melakith

[Zav]

Originally posted by >po|nt`|ockout<Pugdoubt>.,~*:

Mazdamundi > Melakith

How?

Mazdamundi as a spell caster doesn't come close to Mal. Malk can get 600-700 kills on his own some battles, I've never even seen half that with other Lords

[Hugh de Salle]

Vlad and Tyrion in my book.

[Zane87]

Originally posted by zavala451:

Originally posted by >po|nt`|ockout<Pugdoubt>.,~*:

Mazdamundi > Melakith

How?

Mazdamundi as a spell caster doesn't come close to Mal. Malk can get 600-700 kills on his own some battles, I've never even seen half that with other Lords

Vladi, Manni and Mazda can all achieve similiar high kill counts with their spells and abilities.

Sure, Male and Manni have the great advantage of dragons and their breath combined with their spells are really strong, but never underestimate Mazda with his Mount and his spells/abilities. Ruiner of cities is srsly strong.

And Vlad is unmounted Manni on Steroids, so might not get as many kills but has some serious staying power.