Mod to nerf vapires?

[StormRend]

Every game ive played lately, vampires have taken all the land from the coast to the frozen wastes.

I want to play a few games where maybe dwarfs or empire ai survive a bit longer vs them lol

Would maybe a mod that reduces curruption help? I know that was an issue on release but not sure if its still a major factor

[Reaper415]

This mod is what you need. Also has a randomizer add-on if you want every game to be different but dont want to tweak things every time.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1892582971&searchtext=unnatural+selection

[StormRend]

Oh cool ! that looks like it could be fun for more that just vamp nerfin .

Thank you!

[Muerte]

I like them much more now... Makes Empire campaign much more interesting in early/mid game imho

[matlajs]

No such a mod. No need for it.

[StormRend]

Originally posted by matlajs:

No such a mod. No need for it.

Maybe no need but would be a nice change of pace, normally by the time i get up to that side of the map the only race is vampires with maybe one or two settlements of dwarfs.

Would be a nice change of pace lol

[StormRend]

Originally posted by Pig in a Blanket:

I like them much more now... Makes Empire campaign much more interesting in early/mid game imho

When you are playing empire sure, but if you are playing say imrik or orcs or lizard men, by the time you get up to that side of the world the empire is goneand its just vampires lol

[Muerte]

Originally posted by StormRend:

Originally posted by Pig in a Blanket:

I like them much more now... Makes Empire campaign much more interesting in early/mid game imho

When you are playing empire sure, but if you are playing say imrik or orcs or lizard men, by the time you get up to that side of the world the empire is goneand its just vampires lol

Would you prefer for the AI to not progress and build an empire? Seems to me that in the long run the Empire still mostly smashes Vamps anyway...

[Jerubius]

Originally posted by Pig in a Blanket:

Originally posted by StormRend:

When you are playing empire sure, but if you are playing say imrik or orcs or lizard men, by the time you get up to that side of the world the empire is goneand its just vampires lol

Would you prefer for the AI to not progress and build an empire? Seems to me that in the long run the Empire still mostly smashes Vamps anyway...

Right now it's just very random, if a little weighted in VC's favor. You still get games where they just get utterly stomped like before, but more often than not, they're aggressive early and they don't stop. The empire can't get it together fast enough and just gets eaten up. The problem is that the game is just very swingy in regards to AI vs AI. If one starts winning a little, they just snowball. You very rarely end up in a situation where neighboring factions can both grow into major powers without them allying.

[Muerte]

Originally posted by Jerubius:

Originally posted by Pig in a Blanket:

Would you prefer for the AI to not progress and build an empire? Seems to me that in the long run the Empire still mostly smashes Vamps anyway...

Right now it's just very random, if a little weighted in VC's favor. You still get games where they just get utterly stomped like before, but more often than not, they're aggressive early and they don't stop. The empire can't get it together fast enough and just gets eaten up. The problem is that the game is just very swingy in regards to AI vs AI. If one starts winning a little, they just snowball. You very rarely end up in a situation where neighboring factions can both grow into major powers without them allying.

Maybe it's my personal butterfly effect that i create everytime but i have yet to see a Vamptide that kills the Empire.

[StormRend]

Originally posted by Pig in a Blanket:

Originally posted by StormRend:

When you are playing empire sure, but if you are playing say imrik or orcs or lizard men, by the time you get up to that side of the world the empire is goneand its just vampires lol

Would you prefer for the AI to not progress and build an empire? Seems to me that in the long run the Empire still mostly smashes Vamps anyway...

Its not that i dont want them to build and become strong , i just wanted a few campaigns with some diffrent races endgame is all

Vamps have stomped empire and bret in 5 campaigns in a row for me atm

[Relent]

Yeah, the vampires are something else since Warden & Paunch. I'm about 50-ish turns into a dwarf campaign (with Thorgrim), and the Empire is barely hanging on. Franz owns Aldorf, Grunberg, and a handful of settlements in Middenland, while Mannfred owns pretty much everything else. Balthasar is clinging to Pfieldorf and Fort Soll, but I fear he isn't long for this world without help.

Fortunately I just managed to confederate Belegar, so I should at least be able to start launching counter attacks from there while the rest of my armies keep Grimgor contained.

It's been a pretty exciting campaign so far, all in all. But boy, the vamps just seem to dominate the Empire every time no matter what.

[😴]

like what Reaper415 said get Unnatural Selection 2 mod and give a slight buff to the most likely enemy of the VC (Empire).
Now Empire won't get steamrolled by VC.

OR give debuff to VC. Not sure how this plays out tho never tried it. Mod author said debuffing faction only hurts economy leaving unit and army stats untouched, probably not stopping the snowballing effect *shrug*

i also recommend AI Limited Expansion mod along side with Unnatural Selection 2 both from same mod author, but ultimately Unnatural Selection 2 works just fine alone if you just want see specific factions survive from snowballing factions.

[Paradigmal]

i use AI limited expansion but unfortunately vampires have steamrolled empire in 10 campaigns since patch day...and to be honest i dont notice much of a difference with that mod on any of the "major" factions

[Notoko]

Originally posted by StormRend:

Every game ive played lately, vampires have taken all the land from the coast to the frozen wastes.

I want to play a few games where maybe dwarfs or empire ai survive a bit longer vs them lol

Would maybe a mod that reduces curruption help? I know that was an issue on release but not sure if its still a major factor

Funny, it seems like only yesterday everyone was complaining how weak Vampires Counts were and how they always got wiped from the map early in the campaign!

[Paradigmal]

seems the tide will always roll one way or the other...guess its hard to find a balance lol