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Viper Actual Jul 1, 2020 @ 12:52pm
Tor Yvresse campaign unbeatable?
I'm in a bit of a sticky situation; having not played Eltharion the Grim's campaign previously I assumed that once Grom's timer went to 0 that I'd be able to use all of my armies in one, final, battle.

Unfortunately I only seem to be able to use Eltharion's army which presents another issue; I swapped out all non-Mist Walker units for MW units (in an effort to scale up the overall durability of my army) but sadly that doesn't seem to be enough. On top of that I never had the chance to get all of the Athel Tamarha upgrades, denying several useful abilities in the process.

My questions;
1) Have I put myself in an unwinnable situation?
2) Recommended army comp for Eltharion?
3) Are there more traps inside the city depending on the level of defenses/the level of Tor Yvresse reconstruction?

Cheers.
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Originally posted by RCMidas:
1) Recruited a second Lord and focused on getting as many archers as possible, including via global recruitment.
2) Went south with Eltharion to attack and sack the main settlement. Tried to capture the Arachnos Lords to interrogate and execute them. Had some good luck with the way the AI recruited more of them so he got some extra XP and cash for those fights.
3) Transferred everyone over to Eltharion (he made a mistake in dismissing one unit, so he only went into the battle with 19 units inc. Eltharion and Cavill, rather than the full 20).
4) In the battle, used his phoenix to draw as much Greenskin artillery fire as possible. Kept the rest of his army all the way back in the far left corner. Summoned both Mistwalker units (and the 2nd one nearly got trashed as a result).
5) Waited until his allies had done their utmost, then slowly lured in one or two enemy units at a time for his archers to pick off whilst Eltharion, Cavill, and his three units of spears/sentinels kept them at bay. This was made much easier by the lucky drop of a Tormentor Sword - which stops enemy units from moving as well as tanking their melee stats. Using that ability several times over the course of the battle helped to prevent cavalry charges, escaping elite units etc so that they could be properly targeted by his archers.
6) Each army AI has a different objective. The first one, for instance, wants to capture the city. It will hold the main capture point and never leave it if possible. This means that most of the reinforcements, staggered as they are, can be picked off easily as they slowly approach Eltharion.
7) The Rogue Idols were the biggest threat, but thankfully were so slow that they could be focus-fired down relatively easily. The Hero Cavill was used almost exclusively for his ability to heal people.
8) The phoenix was used to run units off the battlefield wherever possible. Then his army ran out of arrows and Winds of Magic. This meant having to go into melee against the Stone Trolls and Black Orcs which had yet to really fight anyway. Melee. With archers. The only thing that saved him was the fact that he had so many troops next to theirs, and so many of their reinforcements had already died (including all their leadership, Lords and Heroes both) that Army Losses kicked in for them just before it did for him.
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Dagy47 Jul 1, 2020 @ 12:58pm 
yes, that tor yvresse campaign is hightly unplayable, almost impossible to win, thats also why there was this youtube competition on who can actualy do it and win....
the competition was also timed, so whoever can do the campaign in smaller amount of turns wins, there was a guy who won it at turn 1, but still quite a unbeatable campaign....
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𝒦.ℒ.ℬ. (Banned) Jul 1, 2020 @ 1:25pm 
Originally posted by Dagy47:
yes, that tor yvresse campaign is hightly unplayable, almost impossible to win, thats also why there was this youtube competition on who can actualy do it and win....
the competition was also timed, so whoever can do the campaign in smaller amount of turns wins, there was a guy who won it at turn 1, but still quite a unbeatable campaign....
....

'' there was a guy who won it at turn 1''...


you don't see any issue with that statement?
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Dagy47 Jul 1, 2020 @ 1:35pm 
Originally posted by Ꞣℒദ . .:
Originally posted by Dagy47:
yes, that tor yvresse campaign is hightly unplayable, almost impossible to win, thats also why there was this youtube competition on who can actualy do it and win....
the competition was also timed, so whoever can do the campaign in smaller amount of turns wins, there was a guy who won it at turn 1, but still quite a unbeatable campaign....
....

'' there was a guy who won it at turn 1''...


you don't see any issue with that statement?
can you read between lines, or is comprehensive reading not your strongest suit? I was beyond sarcastic with that troll post there....
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Green Raven Jul 1, 2020 @ 1:38pm 
I triggered Grom's invasion early, 30 turns from the countdown.

Used an army mostly compossed of Swordmasters and Handmaiden archers.
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A.Pot Jul 1, 2020 @ 1:52pm 
You must never have done a quest battle then because all quest battles require you to use one army belonging to a certain Lord.
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Green Raven Jul 1, 2020 @ 2:02pm 
I did one quest battle for a piece of gear, captured one of the three key terretories, and gained the second when I confederated with Imrik.
The third key terrotory was way off in Lustria, and when I realized I would never get there I triggered Grom's invasion.

I had all of Athel Tamara upgraded, it gets easier when you finally get a Hero to lvl 15 and pronounce him a mistwalker.

During the final battle I kept 6 Sword Masters and 4 Handmaiden Archers inside the plaza with Eltharion. I had a Fire Mage on a Dragon roaming just outside the walls, mostly using The Burning Head and Piercing Bolts. The remaining 8 units were hybrid mistwalker infantry, whose job was to hold the walls.

It wasn't easy, but we won.
Last edited by Green Raven; Jul 1, 2020 @ 2:06pm
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Green Raven Jul 1, 2020 @ 2:14pm 
I don't even remember who I fought in the quest... just that the map had these two great ledges for archers, and that if you held out long enough an allied air force would bail you out.
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Dr_Kira Jul 1, 2020 @ 2:24pm 
Originally posted by Green Raven:
I don't even remember who I fought in the quest... just that the map had these two great ledges for archers, and that if you held out long enough an allied air force would bail you out.
that's against chaos, fun quest battle tbh
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Inardesco Jul 1, 2020 @ 2:40pm 
Its perfectly doable.

Just abandon the walls cuz they come at you in waves...

When I did it Grom started moving into the city AFTER the army loss penalty was inflicted so all I needed to do was send a couple of units his way and he shattered.
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RCMidas (Banned) Jul 1, 2020 @ 2:42pm 
Originally posted by Ꞣℒദ . .:
Originally posted by Dagy47:
yes, that tor yvresse campaign is hightly unplayable, almost impossible to win, thats also why there was this youtube competition on who can actualy do it and win....
the competition was also timed, so whoever can do the campaign in smaller amount of turns wins, there was a guy who won it at turn 1, but still quite a unbeatable campaign....
....

'' there was a guy who won it at turn 1''...


you don't see any issue with that statement?
Earliest I've seen so far is actually turn 4. You can thank Legend of Total War for that.
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Extraordinarily Mature Slav Jul 1, 2020 @ 2:43pm 
Originally posted by Dagy47:
Originally posted by Ꞣℒദ . .:
....

'' there was a guy who won it at turn 1''...


you don't see any issue with that statement?
can you read between lines, or is comprehensive reading not your strongest suit? I was beyond sarcastic with that troll post there....
someone did it on turn 4 bro here link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmgLIc2O4IQ.
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Extraordinarily Mature Slav Jul 1, 2020 @ 2:44pm 
Originally posted by RCMidas:
Originally posted by Ꞣℒദ . .:
....

'' there was a guy who won it at turn 1''...


you don't see any issue with that statement?
Earliest I've seen so far is actually turn 4. You can thank Legend of Total War for that.
Hey i posted at the same time, also Legend is a great streamer for learning the game and cheesing.
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Dagy47 Jul 1, 2020 @ 2:59pm 
Originally posted by RCMidas:
Originally posted by Ꞣℒദ . .:
....

'' there was a guy who won it at turn 1''...


you don't see any issue with that statement?
Earliest I've seen so far is actually turn 4. You can thank Legend of Total War for that.
AxiomRazor cheesed it at turn 1
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Cynical Jester Jul 1, 2020 @ 3:09pm 
Originally posted by Dagy47:
Originally posted by RCMidas:
Earliest I've seen so far is actually turn 4. You can thank Legend of Total War for that.
AxiomRazor cheesed it at turn 1
Dude your "sarcastic trolling" is so low grade, get the F out of the thread.
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Green Raven Jul 1, 2020 @ 3:10pm 
Originally posted by Mature Child:
Originally posted by Dagy47:
can you read between lines, or is comprehensive reading not your strongest suit? I was beyond sarcastic with that troll post there....
someone did it on turn 4 bro here link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmgLIc2O4IQ.

I dont have an hour and a half right now, but can anyone explain what he did? I won that last battle by a shred, would be interested in knowing what delicious cheese I'm missing.
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