Total War: WARHAMMER II

Total War: WARHAMMER II

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Kharn Terrer Jun 13, 2020 @ 6:29am
Aranessa Saltspite.
So I started a campaign with her recently and honestly I dont understand how you're supposed to put her on the same category as the rest of the Vampire Coast LL's.

-She cant heal her units
-There is no hero to help with this issue
-Free company are just so bad
-She gets a generic crab mount
-She has no bonuses that actually help her late game they all seem to be early game bonuses

She appears to be for all intents and purposes a total joke. So what am I missing about her besides her net (Which rocks I'll admit) there really doesnt seem to be any redeeming features about her at all. You cant base a Lord on being human/alive then give them a random tier 1 Free Company/Milita and expect them to be a decent lord (Lady?).
I hope there is something I've missed cause I've now done all 3 other Vampire Coast Lords and thoroughly enjoyed all 3. Yet she seems to be the joke of the 4.
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Erikkustrife Jun 13, 2020 @ 7:14am 
Yea shes terrible compared to all the other ones, this is common knowledge.

Also what do you mean theres no hero to help with that issue. Theres a lore of vampire vampire pirate hero.
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Budoshi Jun 13, 2020 @ 7:26am 
Unfortunately she is terrible, so is the whole faction anyways in my opinion.but yeah for me she s is the coolest of the four but also the weaker. the opera singer is the strongest by far again my opinion many will disagreed im sure.
kekkuli Jun 13, 2020 @ 7:46am 
She's just a meme leader with interesting starting point.
Kharn Terrer Jun 13, 2020 @ 10:47am 
Oh good im pleased im not the only one that thinks this. I was really underwhelmed, Luthor and Count Noctulis are worlds better.
zefyris Jun 13, 2020 @ 11:03am 
I thought she was the most fun of all of them though. Even the only VCoast campaign I finished, -I got bored quickly with the others.
-Those free company fully buffed are actually pretty potent even late game (and definitely more than potent enough mid game).
-I wouldn't put her o nthe crab, on foot she's super tanky. She also has perfect vigour which is one of the best attribute a LL can have.
-her faction buffs really push for a "sack everything rather than expanding" pirate gameplay. You gain so much from sacking, and your movement range with ship lords includign your LL is so big tha tyou can easily sack two towns per turn (with 15k+ gold per sacking lmao) with your lords roaming around.

crabs frontline with her and artilelry in the back works very well, just don't put her on a crab.
kekkuli Jun 13, 2020 @ 11:22am 
Free companies potent at late game? No way, they are basically same as high elf rangers, so a tier 1 infantry. Aranessa isn't super tanky no matter on foot or on crab. It's just that ai can't properly focus on lords usually so any melee foot lord is going to feel pretty tanky.
Conflagration Jun 13, 2020 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by Kharn Terrer:
So I started a campaign with her recently and honestly I dont understand how you're supposed to put her on the same category as the rest of the Vampire Coast LL's.

-She cant heal her units
-There is no hero to help with this issue
-Free company are just so bad
-She gets a generic crab mount
-She has no bonuses that actually help her late game they all seem to be early game bonuses

She appears to be for all intents and purposes a total joke. So what am I missing about her besides her net (Which rocks I'll admit) there really doesnt seem to be any redeeming features about her at all. You cant base a Lord on being human/alive then give them a random tier 1 Free Company/Milita and expect them to be a decent lord (Lady?).
I hope there is something I've missed cause I've now done all 3 other Vampire Coast Lords and thoroughly enjoyed all 3. Yet she seems to be the joke of the 4.
No hero to help this issue except for the Lore of Vampires Fleet Captain, of course. Not like Harkon or Cylostra can cast heals either anyway.

She's got some pretty nice anims (though not as powerful as they once were) but yeah, she does have some minor issues too.
Kharn Terrer Jun 13, 2020 @ 2:16pm 
Originally posted by Skørne:
Originally posted by Kharn Terrer:
So I started a campaign with her recently and honestly I dont understand how you're supposed to put her on the same category as the rest of the Vampire Coast LL's.

-She cant heal her units
-There is no hero to help with this issue
-Free company are just so bad
-She gets a generic crab mount
-She has no bonuses that actually help her late game they all seem to be early game bonuses

She appears to be for all intents and purposes a total joke. So what am I missing about her besides her net (Which rocks I'll admit) there really doesnt seem to be any redeeming features about her at all. You cant base a Lord on being human/alive then give them a random tier 1 Free Company/Milita and expect them to be a decent lord (Lady?).
I hope there is something I've missed cause I've now done all 3 other Vampire Coast Lords and thoroughly enjoyed all 3. Yet she seems to be the joke of the 4.
No hero to help this issue except for the Lore of Vampires Fleet Captain, of course. Not like Harkon or Cylostra can cast heals either anyway.

She's got some pretty nice anims (though not as powerful as they once were) but yeah, she does have some minor issues too.

Cylostra really doesnt need the heals at early game though since shes ethereal and magic sucks at the beginning so she can tide you over till you get a vampire fleet captain.
Also Luthor can heal himself so you can use him as a tank of sorts too, Aranessa never gets a heal of any sorts, her traits arent really that impressive her militia arent great especially at late game (I've been playing her all day her Free Company are just trash they are like expensive meat shields that dont last as long because they are humans and runaway) Unlike Luthor and Cylostra she gets a crappy mount has no decent equipment and has to slog her way till she can recruit a fleet captain so her units can stay alive. But ofc it doesnt work on her cause she is mortal in an immortal army. It would have been better if they just made all her units mortal and just be done with it.
Conflagration Jun 13, 2020 @ 2:17pm 
You're right, it would have. But they didn't do that, so that's what mods are for.
Kharn Terrer Jun 13, 2020 @ 2:31pm 
Originally posted by Skørne:
You're right, it would have. But they didn't do that, so that's what mods are for.

Yeah so it brings me back to my original point, shes trash compared to the other 3 Lords (without mods).
Ironslayer541 Jun 13, 2020 @ 2:32pm 
She has some fun mods unlike the others.
Inardesco Jun 13, 2020 @ 3:04pm 
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1568569490

Makes the Sartosan faction more living than dead and actually makes it more fun to play.
Kharn Terrer Jun 13, 2020 @ 3:13pm 
Originally posted by Inardesco:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1568569490

Makes the Sartosan faction more living than dead and actually makes it more fun to play.

Thanks I'll give it a go :D I dont care what you guys say Free company and Milita are just terrible. Low leadership you cant heal them they are expensive and the buffs you get from Aranessa dont make up for it.
I guess they prolly are good on easy/normal difficulty but on anything else they die so fast they are worthless and thats if they dont runaway before that.
Inardesco Jun 13, 2020 @ 3:18pm 
With the above mod they do become usefull because the red line buffs both living and undead units alongside the various heroes that buff the living units further.
Budoshi Jun 13, 2020 @ 3:43pm 
Originally posted by Kharn Terrer:
Originally posted by Inardesco:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1568569490

Makes the Sartosan faction more living than dead and actually makes it more fun to play.

Thanks I'll give it a go :D I dont care what you guys say Free company and Milita are just terrible. Low leadership you cant heal them they are expensive and the buffs you get from Aranessa dont make up for it.
I guess they prolly are good on easy/normal difficulty but on anything else they die so fast they are worthless and thats if they dont runaway before that.
no. even on normal they are wortless lul
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Date Posted: Jun 13, 2020 @ 6:29am
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