High Elf Archers

[NYFan64]

This might have been touched upon already but anyone know why the high elfs lack armor piercing missle infantry? The bolt thrower is AP but I find that lacking.

[THEDOSSBOSS]

They make up for it in range and general eliteness of their units. They have powerful spells, some of which reduce armor, as well as plenty of flying units, powerful lords and heroes, and basically the best infantry in the game (phoenix guard)

[Pizzza_box]

The AP missiles will come with the DLCs and take the form of Shadow Warrors and Sisters of Averlorn.

[Shandor]

AP is more a Woodelf thing. Everything they got is AP. Spears, arrows..
In other Armies its a rare skill.

[THEDOSSBOSS]

Originally posted by Shandor:

AP is more a Woodelf thing. Everything they got is AP. Spears, arrows..
In other Armies its a rare skill.

glances at Dark Elves, Dwarves and Chaos

[ArchAnge1LT]

Some time in the future, shadow warriors should be added to HE roster. They are armor piercing ranged infantry.

[Red Bat]

Because otherwise the only advantage Wood Elves would really have vs them is being able to shoot while moving.

[Harukage]

Since when do shadow warriors use anything armor-piercing? Because they do not, they have the same longbows normal archers use.
Neither do sisters of avelorn. Their bows do inflict -1 penalty on armor saves and use magical atacks, buty they are not true armor-piercing weapons.

[Lampros]

Originally posted by Pizzza_box:

The AP missiles will come with the DLCs and take the form of Shadow Warrors and Sisters of Averlorn.

Are you sure those two will be the DLC units? That is, are you speculating - or was there an announcement I missed?

[Kinja]

Originally posted by Lampros:

Originally posted by Pizzza_box:

The AP missiles will come with the DLCs and take the form of Shadow Warrors and Sisters of Averlorn.

Are you sure those two will be the DLC units? That is, are you speculating - or was there an announcement I missed?

There's not really anything else they could add. There's just 3(well 4 but we're not getting flying chariots, they'd look stupid as hell) that are not in the game yet. The WL Chariot, the Shadow Warriors and the Sisters of Avelorn. There's not really anything else they can add with the 2 other LL's the HE will be getting.

[strike478]

Their archers have alot of other advantages. If they could do even that how would WE archers supposed to be best archers in the game? HE have great magic, elite infantry even cavalry. If thir archers were better they would be clearly superior to WE.

[Red Bat]

Originally posted by strike478:

Their archers have alot of other advantages. If they could do even that how would WE archers supposed to be best archers in the game? HE have great magic, elite infantry even cavalry. If thir archers were better they would be clearly superior to WE.

WE have 2 advantages over HE. Their Glade Lords sometimes come with a trait that increases range on their units, letting their archers fire at a range of up to 197, and almost all Wood Elf ranged units can fire while moving. However otherwise yes, Wood Elves are strictly inferior.

[Harukage]

They shouldn't realy.
Eternal Guard are supposed to be the best elven spearmen and wild riders the best light cavalry, wild wood rangers are suposed to be the best when facing anything fear/terror high tougness, and wardancers generaly have nothing similar within other factions with how their dances work and allow them to adapt to theeir enemy. All WE melee units are super elite specialists whose real cons are price and relatively light armor.
Not that it has anything to do with how they were implemented in the game.

[Magni]

Originally posted by Harukage:

Since when do shadow warriors use anything armor-piercing? Because they do not, they have the same longbows normal archers use.
Neither do sisters of avelorn. Their bows do inflict -1 penalty on armor saves and use magical atacks, buty they are not true armor-piercing weapons.

-1 armor is exactly what the "armor-piercing" special rule did in the tabletop.

[jgtogi]

What about the Lothern Sea Guard. They are archers with AP. Not every army needs to be the best at everything.


https://totalwarwarhammer.gamepedia.com/Lothern_Sea_Guard

[Rabidnid]

Originally posted by time64:

This might have been touched upon already but anyone know why the high elfs lack armor piercing missle infantry? The bolt thrower is AP but I find that lacking.

The HE archers get so many plusses from their tech tree and general skills that they don't really need it. The list of things they can't obliterate is very short.