Looking for the Warhammer 40k Sci-FI Version

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As the title says I am trying to find the Warhammer style Sci-Fi Version of this. I have Adeptus, like XCOM, Gladius and I think a few others, but which one is the "closest" to being like this in the Sci-Fi realm of Warhammer 40k? Thanks for your time and help!

[Hieronymous]

If you like strategy games, and you like warhammer 40, you do yourself a disservice if you don't at least try Dawn of War 1 and Dawn of War 2. The first is most of a classic RTS, the second is squad based. I prefer the second.

Dawn of War 3 was just a mess and I wouldn't play it at any price, even free. I can't remember the last time I was so let down by a major studio as that game.

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Originally posted by gachi is manly:

Flipping terminators aside I don't think they botched the lore in DoW3.

They just put too much focus on the multiplayer MOBA elements in DoW3 which really wasn't what most people wanted/were expecting. And those types of games rely on a large online playerbase so when the game tanked people were scared away from buying it.

Ugh online moba style WH40k?....the heck is that trash...

[gachi is manly]

I dunno.

I guess nobody told Relic they were 5 years late to the MOBA trend.

[Father Ribs]

If you're just intrested in the combat aspects of 40k in an RTS...watch some videos of the 40K mods for Men of War: Assault Squad 2. There are some very cool looking mods.

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Originally posted by Father Ribs:

If you're just intrested in the combat aspects of 40k in an RTS...watch some videos of the 40K mods for Men of War: Assault Squad 2. There are some very cool looking mods.

I mean if there is a mod that could turn a game into a practical Sci-Fi WH40k game, then I'm down.

[jonoliveira12]

Warhammer 40K is not Sci-Fi at all either. It is Sci-Fantasy.

The whole of 40K is heavily dependant on Daemonic forces and Magick, with almost no Science at all.
Just because it has guns and is in Space, does not mean it is not just Fantasy.

I like 40K a lot, but it is not, nor ever will be Sci-Fi.

[Tricks]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Warhammer 40K is not Sci-Fi at all either. It is Sci-Fantasy.

The whole of 40K is heavily dependant on Daemonic forces and Magick, with almost no Science at all.
Just because it has guns and is in Space, does not mean it is not just Fantasy.

I like 40K a lot, but it is not, nor ever will be Sci-Fi.

I mean, the lines between science fiction and fantasy are generally blurry unless we're talking pure hard science fiction. Fantasy doesn't mean you can't have advanced technology, and science fiction doesn't mean you can't have magic.

Is there really no science in WH40K? I'd be shocked if some hard science junkies haven't tried to crunch numbers and reason out imperial tech at least. That being said I'm not familiar enough to say one way or another, it just seems far-fetched to say there's no science to it.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by Tricks:

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Warhammer 40K is not Sci-Fi at all either. It is Sci-Fantasy.

The whole of 40K is heavily dependant on Daemonic forces and Magick, with almost no Science at all.
Just because it has guns and is in Space, does not mean it is not just Fantasy.

I like 40K a lot, but it is not, nor ever will be Sci-Fi.

I mean, the lines between science fiction and fantasy are generally blurry unless we're talking pure hard science fiction. Fantasy doesn't mean you can't have advanced technology, and science fiction doesn't mean you can't have magic.

Is there really no science in WH40K? I'd be shocked if some hard science junkies haven't tried to crunch numbers and reason out imperial tech at least. That being said I'm not familiar enough to say one way or another, it just seems far-fetched to say there's no science to it.

Trouble is, Warhammer is very much based on both Catholicism and Lovecraftian Horror, specially 40K.

It is magical by default, and Faith can literally shap reality drastically.

40K is just a Fantasy setting in the future, replete with Elves, Orcs, Demons, Angels, and all other tropes.

The C'Tan Gods are literal Gods in 40K too, having been biorn with the Universe, and possessing powers that clearly transcend the boundaries of possible Physics.

[Have Heart]

Try Chaos Gate. it's the best :).

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Originally posted by Father Ribs:

If you're just intrested in the combat aspects of 40k in an RTS...watch some videos of the 40K mods for Men of War: Assault Squad 2. There are some very cool looking mods.

Hey I read your profile. I too agree with a lot of what you said. I sent a FR if that's fine! Have a wonderful day.

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Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Warhammer 40K is not Sci-Fi at all either. It is Sci-Fantasy.

The whole of 40K is heavily dependant on Daemonic forces and Magick, with almost no Science at all.
Just because it has guns and is in Space, does not mean it is not just Fantasy.

I like 40K a lot, but it is not, nor ever will be Sci-Fi.

Originally posted by Tricks:

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Warhammer 40K is not Sci-Fi at all either. It is Sci-Fantasy.

The whole of 40K is heavily dependant on Daemonic forces and Magick, with almost no Science at all.
Just because it has guns and is in Space, does not mean it is not just Fantasy.

I like 40K a lot, but it is not, nor ever will be Sci-Fi.

I mean, the lines between science fiction and fantasy are generally blurry unless we're talking pure hard science fiction. Fantasy doesn't mean you can't have advanced technology, and science fiction doesn't mean you can't have magic.

Is there really no science in WH40K? I'd be shocked if some hard science junkies haven't tried to crunch numbers and reason out imperial tech at least. That being said I'm not familiar enough to say one way or another, it just seems far-fetched to say there's no science to it.

I'm not here to argue about what "Sci-Fi" means to you. I'm here to find a more SCIENCE FICTION style of the WH 40k that is Total War. I want the Space Marine's variant of Total War Warhammer 40k. Yes WH 40k is "sci-fi fantasy", but let us not argue when that's not relevant to the discussion post please.

[Father Ribs]

Originally posted by Rrun:

Try Chaos Gate. it's the best :).

Oh man, I miss that...that and Final Liberation.

[Hieronymous]

There is also the arpg Inquisitor- Martyr, which is fun.

[Father Ribs]

40K when it came out was yeah, sci-fantasy, but it was a lot more ground in history than you'd think. Earliest marketing was that this was a scifi version of the dark ages, with the Roman Empire fallen, split into little rival kingdoms, overrun by barbarians, every little outpost fighting to keep that spark alive of civilization and hope...defiant survival even as the technology and acheivements of the past are lost through time and the encroaching barbarian hordes.

It's Constintanople, manning the walls and watching the eastern empires slowly whittle them away. It's the various Germanic tribes fighting over the scraps of the Western empire. It's a time when faith was a strength and will, but also a dirge and a closing of minds and hearts. It's peasants in the ruins of the empire looking at Roman towns, temples, roads...and knowing these things are lost to us.

It's a dead yet alive king in name being our distant father figure, demanding blood sacrafice and martyrdom, being the beacon to hold this whole thing together, straining to not. give. up. Even the warp and psychers are the encrouching humanism and enlightenment, but at the expense of the rule of kings, and feared for the chaos it will bring. Even if the enlightenment was seen as a boon to the world, it also destabalized what was seen as the order and establishment. Chaos worshippers/new ideas on humanity brought us bloody revolution in most countries in the world. Where inquisitors have the ability to have people killed and tortured at a whim in response.

It's also a world where the real-world influences are right before your eyes. If you ever get the chance to go to London and visit Westminster Abbey, you will have seen the most Warhammer thing ever made. All it needs are servo skulls. You can see throughout the UK ruined signs of passing of great empires. Even in the Tower of London, there's a ruined wall built a millenia ago.

Is Warhammer 40K sci-fantasy? Yes...but as for grounding in "reality"...it's just a re-imagining of what already was.

Except those flying surf boards. They were pretty stupid.

[Sarcastro]

There will eventually be one because of money to be made. Only thing that can stop is the death of our civilization. So it is basically a 50/50 proposition.