Whats the second most easy Skaven LL? (Dont have the Ikit Claw DLC)

[John190_homicidal_maniac]

Is it Lord Skrolk?

[Yellowdragon]

You have Eshin tho?

[Android Poetry]

Ikit is second easiest. Sniktch is first.

[John190_homicidal_maniac]

Originally posted by TanksK the tactical feeder:

You have Eshin tho?

No. Dont have any Skaven DLCs besides the FLC one.

[Carog the Fat]

Skrolk on ME, nice start easy summons for fights and a corner to own.

[Yellowdragon]

Yeah Lord Skrolk.

[John190_homicidal_maniac]

Originally posted by Agent Orange:

Skrolk on ME, nice start easy summons for fights and a corner to own.

And for Vortex?

[SeriousCCIE]

I have to defy your question and state that Ikit's DLC is actually pretty fun, with the tech tree lab for the units and their enhancements.

It really changed my approach to the game and unit selection and made me value the choices I made, at least until I conquered my enemies and then shattered my alliances through betrayal and then ran them all over with my DOOM WHEELS and then shot and burned anyone left with my ratling guns and warpfire throwers!

I mean once you go Rat, you never go back. Especially with Ikit.

[Art]

Get yourself the Prophet and warlock DLC as well as the Shadow and the Blade and you'll be sorted :)

[valky]

Originally posted by John190_homicidal_maniac:

And for Vortex?

Not Queek (sandwiched by Lizards) or Tretch (sandwiched by HE & DE) - the latter can be quite hard on higher difficulty.
That leaves either Snikch or Skrolk.
Have yet to play Skrolk in Vortex, so I can comment on that one. But he is a machine....

[yuzhonglu]

Skolk has issues if Itza gets Primeval Glory early.

[valky]

Originally posted by yuzhonglu:

Skolk has issues if Itza gets Primeval Glory early.

If the script is not modified, that gives you at least 15 turns to prepare and then it has a 5% each turn for the AI to get a blessed spawning, which is the unlock condition. (money should not matter for the AI)
In 15 turns you can do a lot of sneaky stuff with Skaven, yes-yes! (like razing a few settlements and let the lizards re-take it for epic casualties....hmm, not quite sure if single-entity monster are affected)

I usually go straight for an Engineer and chain-block it, 'til am in the mood to take them out...takes a bit o' luck, but works in most cases.

edit: it's not like Skaven could instantly create a Tier 5 settlement....blasphemy, who ever said that! ^.^

[Cacomistle]

Originally posted by yuzhonglu:

Skolk has issues if Itza gets Primeval Glory early.

I think you can get plague before they get primeval glory. Like turn 10 or so. Plague their capital and you can just take it for free (kind of like the above post is saying, but I think the plague rite for Pestilens is way better going for engineer).

That's specifically ME, I haven't played them in vortex for so long I have no clue how hard/easy they are.

[Android Poetry]

I think Clan Mors is the easiest of the FLC and base lords. The reason is clanrats can be buffed like crazy by Queek and he gets huge discounts. YOu can field so many clan rats for cheap, just swarm everything. Yes they are weak, but with enough of them flanking and rear charging you will wear down any army. Worked for me.

[Elliott]

All Skaven in Vortex have starts that can go bad if you're complacent because theres no Skaven homeland like the other factions have so they always start somewhere where theres lots of factions that hate them.

I've never seen an AI skaven faction become powerful in Vortex which I think says a lot about how easily they get isolated and picked off by the power blocs of other factions.

[MerlinTheGameWizard]

Skryre dlc is worth it. I'm packing ratling gunners with 1000 damage per burst, and snipers that have double damage and near immediate reload times.