It's been almost a year and Dread Saurian are still bad

[LORDxLUBU]

It's really squishy and terrible in Campaign despite with all the buffs from Lords and even worse is MP (nobody picks them). What is the point to this unit? Why even cap it? It's terrible. CA needs to do something.

[Rack]

Messaggio originale di halogamb:

Messaggio originale di Rack:

In that case there is no disscusion becouse there is no way how to compare balanced armies - its about micro and other ♥♥♥♥

No it isn't... Are you this petty and stubborn that you need to only lean on breaking the balance of the game in order to support your inflated narrative?

Spaming 1 unit doesnt brake the balance, AI can do the same thing and i have seen many Necrofex spam armies made by Harkon

[Kaaz]

Messaggio originale di Daliena:

Messaggio originale di Rack:

Like what ? 1v1, of course the more expensive unit beats the lower one. My point is that 2 stegadons for price of 1 ds can defeat it and thats why its a better unit

Unit. Slots. Per. Army. Not to mention that there is more to the game than "X worth of gold of unit Y beats X worth of gold of unit Z, therefore unit Z is inferior in every possible situation!"

You know, I'd bet that you could build a cheap force of cavalry that could beat many times their own worth in grudge throwers.. Does that mean grudge throwers are useless because cavalry is the superior unit?

its basically the yugo-whosit way of thinking, you can win with 3 stacks of skavenslave slingers for the same cost, (or trebuchets, or whatever other random thing he finds) therefore every other unit is bad

[halogamb]

Messaggio originale di Rack:

Messaggio originale di halogamb:

No it isn't... Are you this petty and stubborn that you need to only lean on breaking the balance of the game in order to support your inflated narrative?

Spaming 1 unit doesnt brake the balance, AI can do the same thing and i have seen many Necrofex spam armies made by Harkon

Yes it does, and comparing AI behavior when it is well known the AI is all levels of wonky and sub-par to player behavior really proves you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. You've already been proven wrong multiple times over in this thread so there's no reason to continue.

[Rack]

Messaggio originale di halogamb:

Messaggio originale di Rack:

Spaming 1 unit doesnt brake the balance, AI can do the same thing and i have seen many Necrofex spam armies made by Harkon

Yes it does, and comparing AI behavior when it is well known the AI is all levels of wonky and sub-par to player behavior really proves you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. You've already been proven wrong multiple times over in this thread so there's no reason to continue.

You are completely right. There is no reason to continue

[Vyss A'lare]

Ya'll going off and all I want is dread saurians to be more than giant pincushions. I want a true super unit that's actually multiplayer viable

[Kaaz]

Messaggio originale di Ninja of the Bedroom:

that's actually multiplayer viable

as seen in multiple games, it is

[Wyvern]

Messaggio originale di Kaaz:

Messaggio originale di Ninja of the Bedroom:

that's actually multiplayer viable

as seen in multiple games, it is

This.
You see the ds used quite a bit in mp, even by top tier lizardmen players like felkon.

[Fendelphi]

Look at it this way. If you have an army already set and ready, but have only 1 spot left, and your choice is either a Stegadon or Dread Saurian, what you pick depends on what else is in the army and your overall economic situation.
If you want a big monster that absolutely kills anything in melee, and money is not an issue, the Dread Saurian is good prospect.
If money is more of a concern, or you want a bit more long range fire support, a Stegadon is a good pick.

If you want that second Stegadon in cases such as these, you need a second army. Which means increasing upkeep for all exisiting armies. So "gold saved" is only a factor if we look at a single army.

[LORDxLUBU]

Messaggio originale di TanksK the tactical feeder:

https://twwstats.com/unitscards?units=f%3D0%26k%3Dwh2_dlc13_lzd_mon_dread_saurian_1%26r%3D0%26v%3D5304167787849256707&units=f%3D0%26k%3Dwh2_main_lzd_mon_stegadon_1%26r%3D0%26v%3D5304167787849256707

You all judge them yourselves.

Why are you comparing regular Steg to Dread Saurian? They are different monsters. Ancient Steg is a better comparison.

My complaint about Dread Saurian is that even regular ass arrows seems to melt that thing. Non-AP archers. It's like CA gave DS armor and missile resist like a Giant Troll.