Lava Spider Riders

[Darbie]

Anyone else finding these units SUPER weak?

I had 5 in an army, and it took them 25% of their ammo to route a TROLL unit that is weak to their damage.

In every fight they've been in, they have severely under-performed for what their stats say they should be doing. I honestly just want to get rid of them on the 2 armies that they are in.

Anyone else played around with them?

[kekkuli]

Well, most light/skirmisher cavalry units are quite weak unless you use them against something like very weak missile infantry or siege engines.

[Darbie]

I've had plenty of luck with other skirmishers in the past, even with this patch. It's just the Lava Spider Riders seem to hit for far less than what their stats say. It honestly feels like a bug atm. Like their accuracy is WAY too low, or the damage isn't calculating right.

I mean, I cannot imagine a regular group of 5 skirmishers taking that much ammo to route trolls, even more so if they had flaming ammo.

[valky]

Unlock the unique Night gobbo shaman and give him those spiderz!
They are more of a dual-role fighter with the same melee stats as the regular spider rider, but without a shield and have armor piercing. Flanking & hunting down archer and such is their job.
With the upgrade they do pretty decent. (edit armor + speed; reload is pointless, when they hit rank 9 .. like a reduction of ~1 sec)

(still no counter to other cavalry ^^)

The unique shaman has even Goblintide, which boost them further ... they rack up some serious MA.

[Darbie]

I have 5 of them in his army. It's where I first saw how pathetic they are. Regular goblins out perform them with the army line/general buffs.

[valky]

They should have 38 MA @rank0 and with the upgrade & goblintide 75 armor o_O + speed ~90...
I just use them as semi melee cavalry and crush them into the backs - the additional arrow stuff is a neat side-effect, though.
It's the only army, where I use them .. else you are right; night-gobbo archer are insane fully buffed & fed.
Matter of taste, I guess :> I like 'em for that very one themed army

[viryu9]

I was using 2 in the spidel goblin lord's army. They were underperforming all the time, even when chasing routing targets.

[Sins]

think of them as cavalry that happens to have a bow rather than skirmishers.