Black Orc Big Boss seems weak

[MrBucket]

Black Orc Big Boss seems weak, he's barely on par with the regular Orc warboss stat wise, he seems like a watered down version of Orc warboss.

[JODEGAFUN]

They give immune to terror and fear for nearby units. Greenskins are vulnerable to this. So they keep your boyz fighting.

[Wyvern]

He has one of the best statlines for any non-monstrous hero in the game, not sure id call that weak

[MrBucket]

Originally posted by Wyvern:

He has one of the best statlines for any non-monstrous hero in the game, not sure id call that weak

I would, for a Black Orc, he can barely beat his regular counterpart, which is pretty underwhelming for an Orc who is supposed to the biggest, the meanest and the strongest in the Horde, and he's a war boss, no less.

[Hurricane]

Seems weak? hes literally unkillable and makes your units fight to the death, dunno why people give this unit a bad time? hes a buff bot tank, not a dps hero.. the gobbo boss is the dps one.

[SpacePoon]

He's actually OP in multplayer.

And quite good in SP if you understand the melee mechanics (though this isn't your fault, CA doesn't convey this very well). Though his skill tree is quite generic

[MrBucket]

Originally posted by Hurricane:

Seems weak? hes literally unkillable and makes your units fight to the death, dunno why people give this unit a bad time? hes a buff bot tank, not a dps hero.. the gobbo boss is the dps one.

Where is this unkillable remark come from? Put him and the regular Orc Warboss and he can barely beat him, sometimes even losing because of RNG, that’s not very fitting to a Black Orc Warboss.

[Ferreus the Umbral Arrow]

Originally posted by MrBucket:

Black Orc Big Boss seems weak, he's barely on par with the regular Orc warboss stat wise, he seems like a watered down version of Orc warboss.

I can't even recruit him

[Arcangelo]

He's a Big Boss, not a Warboss. He is a Hero choice, not a Lord one. I think we'll get a BOWB in a future DLC.

[MrBucket]

Originally posted by Arcangelo:

He's a Big Boss, not a Warboss. He is a Hero choice, not a Lord one. I think we'll get a BOWB in a future DLC.

Oh now I see why he’s so underwhelming, I thought he was a lord lul, wasn’t playing a greenskin campaign so I only tested him in 1v1 with the Orc Warboss

[Oni]

havent tryed him yet but looking at his stats are solid he has less armor pearsing damage but dose a lot more standed damage way more armor other stats are farly close. the warboss would win but the thing is the warboss is a lord the black ork big boss is a hero so thats the way it should be the black ork looks like he would be a good allrounder.

[Hollywood]

Originally posted by MrBucket:

Originally posted by Arcangelo:

He's a Big Boss, not a Warboss. He is a Hero choice, not a Lord one. I think we'll get a BOWB in a future DLC.

Oh now I see why he’s so underwhelming, I thought he was a lord lul, wasn’t playing a greenskin campaign so I only tested him in 1v1 with the Orc Warboss

Yeah that's what I was about to say, now knowing that he's capable of beating an orc warboss when the coin flips the right way, surely your opinions changed? Lol

[RadCon One]

I've tried them in custom battles, and they beat even most anti-infantry lords while not mounted, and they also beat most anti-large lords while they are mounted.

They are not at all weak, they are one of the best melee fighting hero classes in the game.

[Andrewbh2003]

Originally posted by Entropy:

I've tried them in custom battles, and they beat even most anti-infantry lords while not mounted, and they also beat most anti-large lords while they are mounted.

They are not at all weak, they are one of the best melee fighting hero classes in the game.

in addition to providing insane support options and filling 2 of the greenskins biggest weaknesses

they may even need a nerf tbh

[Hurricane]

Originally posted by MrBucket:

Originally posted by Hurricane:

Seems weak? hes literally unkillable and makes your units fight to the death, dunno why people give this unit a bad time? hes a buff bot tank, not a dps hero.. the gobbo boss is the dps one.

Where is this unkillable remark come from? Put him and the regular Orc Warboss and he can barely beat him, sometimes even losing because of RNG, that’s not very fitting to a Black Orc Warboss.

HES NOT A DUALIST... USING HIM WRONG... put him with grim and the unkillable BO and they can basically beat full armies

[Mr Nothing]

He doesn't beat the Orc Warboss because he is just a black orc BIG BOSS, not a black orc WARBOSS.