Black orc big boss? More like an orc boy little boss

[Kushko]

The black orc big boss is disappointing to say the least...

For one it somehow got little to no armor piercing even though he should be a bigger and arder black orc, which have tons of armor piercing.

And on top of that it was a big let down to see they have no unique flavor skills. Such a wasted opportunity.

So in the end its just a reskin of a unit we al ready had with wrong stats and absolutely nothing interesting or new about it.

[THEDOSSBOSS]

The greenskins didn't have a tank that could hold the line, as well as properly buff and encourage nearby units (with skills that are usually reserved for lords). The black orc big boss fills a role that previously didn't exist for the greenskins in terms of heroes

[ArchAnge1LT]

What did you expect?

He is tanky, leadership buffs and immune to psychology aura. Dont know what more do you want.

[Kushko]

Originally posted by ArchAnge1LT:

What did you expect?

He is tanky, leadership buffs and immune to psychology aura. Dont know what more do you want.

An actual black orc unit with black orc armor piercing for starters? And maybe a fun thematic skill in his skill pool? Id settle for just the proper armor piercing stats though.

[RadCon One]

Originally posted by Kushko:

Originally posted by ArchAnge1LT:

What did you expect?

He is tanky, leadership buffs and immune to psychology aura. Dont know what more do you want.

An actual black orc unit with black orc armor piercing for starters? And maybe a fun thematic skill in his skill pool? Id settle for just the proper armor piercing stats though.

Then they need a sizable nerf in their other stats first. They win in group battles vs other heroes in the majority of cases, even if the other side has anti-small (if they are not mounted), or anti-large (when they are mounted).

[chronobomb]

If they got rid of his silver shield to make him AP, he would be a lot less valuable hero. In MP is already has 50/50 split AP when on his mount and with an item that gives 50% more AP +50% more wep damage. His AP is fine.

If he wasn't soooooo expensive he would get a lot of use.

[ArchAnge1LT]

The only problem with him, is that he should get armor piercing when on boar, and silver shield should downgrade to bronze shield when on boar.

[A.Pot]

Its totally fair that he does not have armor piercing. If you look at his equipment, he is using a one handed axe while the regular black orcs use great axes. Its the bigger two handed weapons that usually do Armor Piercing with only a select few one handers that do AP damage.

[Kushko]

Originally posted by al_potenciano:

Its totally fair that he does not have armor piercing. If you look at his equipment, he is using a one handed axe while the regular black orcs use great axes. Its the bigger two handed weapons that usually do Armor Piercing with only a select few one handers that do AP damage.

I'll be honest and admit i was so pissy about the lack of unique skills that i totally missed he has a shield. I guess that makes up for and explains the total lack of armor piercing. My bad. :)

[Harukage]

But Black Orc Big Boss do have a lorefull skill. He beat the ♥♥♥♥ out of surrounding orc boys and make them behave. That is exactly the thing BO big boss did in TT.

[Chrenergros]

In a first view I had the same feel, that he needed more AP damage. I made a post for this too. BUT after some custom battles, I could say that his purpose is to hold the line and take range fire. Now u can send him at the front, followed by your frontline after the engage. He is a very durable hero and can tank most siege defensive line, something that could kill a line of black orcks. I will probably use 2-3 per army late game.

[kkc495]

Originally posted by Kushko:

The black orc big boss is disappointing to say the least...

For one it somehow got little to no armor piercing even though he should be a bigger and arder black orc, which have tons of armor piercing.

And on top of that it was a big let down to see they have no unique flavor skills. Such a wasted opportunity.

So in the end its just a reskin of a unit we al ready had with wrong stats and absolutely nothing interesting or new about it.

Yeah, where is the Black Orc Big Boss? It is a free play-able lord?

It is a DLC that you buy or something. Anyone from C.A. to give us answer?

[Yellowdragon]

They are also green not black.

They should have called it Green orc big boss.

[thorntk421]

Originally posted by kkc495:

Originally posted by Kushko:

The black orc big boss is disappointing to say the least...

For one it somehow got little to no armor piercing even though he should be a bigger and arder black orc, which have tons of armor piercing.

And on top of that it was a big let down to see they have no unique flavor skills. Such a wasted opportunity.

So in the end its just a reskin of a unit we al ready had with wrong stats and absolutely nothing interesting or new about it.

Yeah, where is the Black Orc Big Boss? It is a free play-able lord?

It is a DLC that you buy or something. Anyone from C.A. to give us answer?

BOBB is a free hero unit added to the game today. It should have automatically been downloaded and is able to recruit after building the 3rd? infantry building. If he's not showing up in game restart your computer. For some reason that's worked for people when he's not showing up in game.

[Martialis]

It's a hero unit that will only be recruitable in new games, not games-in-progress.

To me, the most valuable thing about him is that he can train troops. As someone who exclusively uses Empire Captains, this has always been a big hole in the Greenskins roster to me.

[Chrenergros]

Originally posted by Martialis:

It's a hero unit that will only be recruitable in new games, not games-in-progress.

To me, the most valuable thing about him is that he can train troops. As someone who exclusively uses Empire Captains, this has always been a big hole in the Greenskins roster to me.

Well train skill is not so great... It gives a small amount of xp each turn and even after 20-30 turn it will be still small if u see how much exp a unit need to get a chevron. What i really enjoy is that he is the only late game unit with a good armour (110) and a silver shield, so i can finally have a frontline with some shields.