Imrik - Gordinar Dragon battle.

[unclelondon]

Hey guys, i've started an Imrik campaign and i've come across the dragon battle against Gordinar, which the fire dragon allied with the Tomb Kings. There are also 4 phoenix in the fight which is giving me a lot of grief due to my whole army having fire attacks. I have quite an archer heavy build and they just ain't punching through the phoenix or the dragon hard enough to win the fight. Is there a way to switch this off or should I just ignore this dragon battle for now?

[Zane87]

Yeah that battle was a bit rough.

How I did it (cheese) was to use Imrik (dragon), dragon, fire mage (dragon) and a noble (eagle) to engage their Phoenix to the far side of their formation until it was a bit rough, then chicken out and fly back to my formation at the edge of the map and lured all fliers with me.

The enemy dragon is slow so he arrives last and if you time it correct, you should kill/rout half of the phoenixes already till he arrives, then let Imrik engage and tank the dragon while your heroes tank the remaining fliers and your archers shoot them to death, one at a time.

Position your units so that the arrows mostly only hit the enemy and be careful with auto fire when you approach your formation first, first time I tried that my own troops shredded Imrik ^^

If you do that, most fliers are dead when the main force arrives and then it's easy.

[Mack Yuu]

You have to tank the fliers and take out the ground units; the ground units don't have fire resistance innately. Lacking ground units, the remaining fliers that aren't the dragon will flee off the map, leaving the dragon (unbreakable) to be slowly whittled down by all of your remaining forces.

You can try to bait the fliers to Benny Hill after some of your own flying units, but it doesn't always work; personally, I'd just try to ignore them and burn (heh) down the ground troops as fast as possible.

[unclelondon]

Ace thanks I will try focusing the ground troops first. I think I was trying to focus the phoenix' before so they didn't hassle my backline but obviously i'm not damaging them with all the fire damage i'm putting out.

[zefyris]

don't make your army having fire attacks (early on you'll have that logically through the greater invocation of Vaul). If you happen to get that dragon encounter and currently are under the invocation effect, wait until it ends and then trigger the battle.

Arcane phoenixes and the dragon itself takes basically 10% of your physical damage if you have that active. So you're making the fight way more difficult than it should be.

[Rack]

Sisters of Avelorn are best answer to dragon battles

[unclelondon]

ah yeah I just realised it's the greater invocation. I think i activated it thinking it would help the battle before realising the fire debuff. I think thats the problem solved. Thanks guys!

[Mack Yuu]

Originally posted by Rack:

Sisters of Avelorn are best answer to dragon battles

Not Gordinar's. He comes in with a bunch of Fire Damage resistant units--Flamespyre Phoenixes, for example. You put up Sister spam against him, it's like using Sisters against Ironbreakers; you're in for a bad time.

[zefyris]

Originally posted by Rack:

Sisters of Avelorn are best answer to dragon battles

ahahahah that was one of the worst answer you could have dude. There's like 5 units nigh immune to fire damage in there and they're all flyers.


BTW you can take it backward and use your dragon princes to tank the phoenixes and gordinar. Even a star dragon lose heavily against one single unbuffed unit of dragon princes (dragon princes don't even lose 5% of their models in large unit scale vs a star dragon), and in Imrik's army DP are far from unbuffed. I think they're at 90% fire resist.
So let them land and when they land suround them with dragon princes, they're as good as dead, focus on the rest of their army with your other troops.