Lizardmen won't confederate

[Garrett]

I'm almost in the 180 turn, I have almost all the territories of the "new world" under control (not yet attack the old map of Warhammer 1 so the old factions are safe, for now) with the exception of Ulthuan and the Dark Elf lands. I have power rank 1, more gold than I can spend in one turn, 5 doomstacks, and almost all of my characters above lvl20 and reaching 40, and yet my two allies, Krog-gar and Gor-rok flatly refuse to confederate with me. I didn't have this problem with the other Lizardmen factions like Tiktaq'to and Tehenhauin and a couple of minor Lizardmen faction (Nakai and his Defenders are dead since several dozen turns already, not surprising). And worst of all? We are in the midst of the Chaos invasion and everyone got the "Shield of Civilization" trait AND STILL they refuse to confederate with me, even when a minor faction of Chaos appears on the southeast coast of Lustria with 6 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stacks of troops and they begin to raze all the coastal settlements, both mine and Gor-rok and my ally does absolutely NOTHING to prevent it, even when I use the command "Coordinate attack" so he move to the targets that I mark, he does nothing, is useless. And on the other hand, Krog-gar is at war against 6 factions,the Warriors of Chaos plus their Servants and Puppets, Khemri from Tomb Kings, Clan Mors and another that I can't remember now, and he doesn't want to confederate with me either, it's ridiculous. The only thing they do is occupy territories and steal destroyed settlements by colonizing them before me. I am only a few turns away from diverting my doomstacks from the elven territories and the orc barren lands to destroy Itzia and the Last Defenders and end this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[RCMidas]

Първоначално публикувано от Selrach:

If you realy want to force the issue well there is a mod somewhere called "easier confederation" which make it quite more possible to confeder once you have 100 of relationship (and a good reputation of course), i think it is safe game compatible (you may need to pass a turn for it to work).

Agh, that mod broke a while back. Hasn't been updated since October/November 2018. Even tried to duplicate the effects myself but couldn't work out what was going on. Currently your best option is to use the "Easy Diplomacy" mod (which has been updated for "Shadow and Blade") and just restrain yourself from abusing it.

[tomasstigjensen]

There are many factors into Confederation, some factions are easier then others, Strengh score and relation/reputation ofcause maters alot.. But there are many others.. How is thier situation at that moment, do they have strong allies, is leader alive, how many are they in war with, how strong are they ect. ect.
There are servel good tips..
1- Keep a eye out, when they loose a fight with thier leader and he gets wounded, they become weak and are more likely to whant to confed.
2- Ally with them. declare war on alot of far away factions, get them to attack and strong nearby opponent where they loose, then drop they alliance, and confed them in same turn, before the negative start from leaving the alliance.
3. Some factions can subjegate, like the VC.. Then they are weak, gets a HUGE ralation bonus, when you are at +150 you can release them at confed them in same turn..