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Skaven Clans need to be seperate.
I wanted to talk about the Skaven clans.

After watching several lore videos about the Skaven, especially a few about the major Skaven clans

I realized that CA CAN NOT simply make the skaven clans recolors of each other! Some things like Clanrats and Skaven Slaves, those could be forgiven, but not all their really special units. They trully NEED to be their own seperate factions, who just so happen to be part of the same race.

I mean you got at least 5 to 6 clans that could easily make playable factions in TW:W2

They are

Clan Mors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jCWYAA8iCg
Clan Pestilens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnmHT780NFA
Clan Moulder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH-CQeTAgxI
Clan Eshin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeJZDx1Ao64
Clan Skryre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puddEOg4sZw

Thank Krevin for the videos.

And maybe Clan Rictus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN6d4BjoNC0
Go to 17:40-17:50 of the video to see what Arch says about Clan Rictus.

And yes, I'll give most of you, that Clan Eshin doesn't really have much of a standing army, but that woudln't make them any less fun to play in a TW game.
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Kaaz 22. juli 2017 kl. 8.44 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Old Dirty Bingo Caller:
Whats that? Another one of your ill-informed threads die?

*gigglesnort*
chubbyninja89 (TNB) 22. juli 2017 kl. 10.54 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Old Dirty Bingo Caller:
Whats that? Another one of your ill-informed threads die?

No, just pointing out how you completely went silent after my last comment to you.

This one.
Opprinnelig skrevet av Old Dirty Bingo Caller:
Opprinnelig skrevet av chubbyninja89 (the Ninja Brony):

Oh this guy

You have some issues man. Searching for me like a pathetic creepy stalker.
Dont flatter yourself.. You are a minor annoyance, like ♥♥♥♥ on a boot heel.. Nobody is searching for you, your idiocy is all over the place..

Edit: Are you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ kidding me? A friend invite..?

Opprinnelig skrevet av chubbyninja89 (the Ninja Brony):
Then why do you always follow me?

Seems like I'm a big enough of a deal for you to look for any thread I vist or post.

Though I'm surprised how long it took you to figure out that Warhammer 2 also has its own threads and all.

And I just sent you a friend request cause wanted to ask both why do you follow me and what your real problem with me is, without you trying to put on your big show. But I don't supposed you'd be mature enough to answer either of those questions.

Have fun being ignored again.

You never did reply to this. Probably because I 100% hit the nail on the head when it comes to you.

Good day sir.
Sist redigert av chubbyninja89 (TNB); 22. juli 2017 kl. 10.54
Abacus 22. juli 2017 kl. 11.12 
Skaven was just skaven.....Each clan just had some flavor units and a different "Rat Idealogy"lore wise.

there was only one codex. it was the TT player's decision to paint them, or maybe Bash the various figures (mix pieces).

There wasn't a whole different army for each clan in table top, they were just re-colors (well, whatever the player decided to model them after.) each "clan" could use whatever unit from whatever clan. Similar to how the Empire could use units frim the various factions in the empire.

Also remember that many of those figure you see online that look lke a specific clan for instance. Have pieces from totally different figures from different factions. Like they will put certain chaos pieces on a skaven to make them look a more unique way. Also just because art exists, dosen't mean there was an a figure for eatch art piece.

Don't tempt CA into making more DLC fpr DLC (They've done this, regarless of what they say. CHaos...Didn't even have to be release. They could have waited. We could'nt play Varg right, sne thing.)
Sist redigert av Abacus; 22. juli 2017 kl. 11.15
chubbyninja89 (TNB) 22. juli 2017 kl. 11.20 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Mysto:
Skaven was just skaven.....Each clan just had some flavor units and a different "Rat Idealogy"lore wise.

there was only one codex. it was the TT player's decision to paint them, or maybe Bash the various figures (mix pieces).

There wasn't a whole different army for each clan in table top, they were just re-colors (well, whatever the player decided to model them after.) each "clan" could use whatever unit from whatever clan. Similar to how the Empire could use units frim the various factions in the empire.

Also remember that many of those figure you see online that look lke a specific clan for instance. Have pieces from totally different figures from different factions. Like they will put certain chaos pieces on a skaven to make them look a more unique way.

Dude, look just a little at the major clans in the lore. You'd see that they do fight differently from each other.

They could easily make seperate factions for Clan Pestilens, Moulder, and Mors. Clan Skryre could be used as the "Skaven" faction.
Silent J 22. juli 2017 kl. 11.43 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Old Dirty Bingo Caller:
Opprinnelig skrevet av chubbyninja89 (the Ninja Brony):

You hear that?




That's the sound of a moron getting served.

Good day sir.
Whats that? Another one of your ill-informed threads die?
It is funny because it is true.
chubbyninja89 (TNB) 22. juli 2017 kl. 11.46 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Giants With Class:
Opprinnelig skrevet av Old Dirty Bingo Caller:
Whats that? Another one of your ill-informed threads die?
It is funny because it is true.

Look at the reply I sent him on page 11 of this thread.

You'll find that funny.

He follows me to every thread to just start crap to try to get attention.
Jack Deth 22. juli 2017 kl. 12.19 
Opprinnelig skrevet av chubbyninja89 (the Ninja Brony):

They could easily make seperate factions for Clan Pestilens, Moulder, and Mors. Clan Skryre could be used as the "Skaven" faction.

Sure, they completely could. But just like Chaos, they also fight together and have generally the same goal...

Throt the Unclean: Gee, Ikit, what do you wanna do tonight?

Ikit: The same thing we do every night, Throt...try to take over the world!

As much as I agree with what you're saying, it might be too much work for them to personalize every generic unit for a specific faction. That said, Mors is a dominant power in Skavendom generally known for having some of the best warriors and gear. They also can easily bea reason why we don't get in depth faction seperate forces.

Most of Skavendom really is generally slapped together parts from different factions. More to the point, I don't see why the faction specific units wouldn't be in their father factions colors and details. I.e. plague monks...well plague monks are a bad choice as they all look raggedy.

But special weapon teams I'd be surprised not to see iconography from Skryre, or maybe some Moulder branding on a herd (bundle?muder?school?) of giant rats.

So they have a common goal and it would be easier to just implement them in a similar manner to other forces. Though it would be neat if you could pick a main faction and have a different start position. i.e. Moulder, Mors, Skryre, etc...

Lastly, I would expect something of that nature to come more from the DLC... (example: a Clan Pestilens w/ Skrolk vs. a Lizardmen w/ Tehenhauin done up like the Skarsnik v. Belegar DLC).
chubbyninja89 (TNB) 22. juli 2017 kl. 12.38 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Tyberos the Red Wake:

Think about it in the terms of the Beastmen.

They could totally make them all within the Skaven race. But with each of the LLs they could have the playstyle in the campaign, and just make the seperate factions within the Skaven in multiplayer.

Or they could just make several faction slots for the Skaven and tweak them from the base "Skaven" faction into Clan Moulder, Pestilens, and Mors. It wouldn't be that hard if you actually think about it.
Sist redigert av chubbyninja89 (TNB); 22. juli 2017 kl. 12.39
Old Dirty Bingo Caller (Utestengt) 23. juli 2017 kl. 1.04 
Opprinnelig skrevet av chubbyninja89 (the Ninja Brony):
Opprinnelig skrevet av Giants With Class:
It is funny because it is true.

Look at the reply I sent him on page 11 of this thread.

You'll find that funny.

He follows me to every thread to just start crap to try to get attention.
He/she probably will find that funny, but not for the reasons you would want chubby.
Best thing about you is, you are among the most disliked people on these forums and you dont even realize it. Ever wonder why you get Into so many arguments? You are just plain obnoxious, unless people actually agree with you, then you are just a little obnoxious..
The fact that you classify people who disagree with you as trolls, idiots, morons and out to start crap is a true testament to your character..
Shandor 23. juli 2017 kl. 1.45 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Tyberos the Red Wake:
Opprinnelig skrevet av chubbyninja89 (the Ninja Brony):

They could easily make seperate factions for Clan Pestilens, Moulder, and Mors. Clan Skryre could be used as the "Skaven" faction.

Sure, they completely could. But just like Chaos, they also fight together and have generally the same goal...

Throt the Unclean: Gee, Ikit, what do you wanna do tonight?

Ikit: The same thing we do every night, Throt...try to take over the world!

As much as I agree with what you're saying, it might be too much work for them to personalize every generic unit for a specific faction. That said, Mors is a dominant power in Skavendom generally known for having some of the best warriors and gear. They also can easily bea reason why we don't get in depth faction seperate forces.

Most of Skavendom really is generally slapped together parts from different factions. More to the point, I don't see why the faction specific units wouldn't be in their father factions colors and details. I.e. plague monks...well plague monks are a bad choice as they all look raggedy.

But special weapon teams I'd be surprised not to see iconography from Skryre, or maybe some Moulder branding on a herd (bundle?muder?school?) of giant rats.

So they have a common goal and it would be easier to just implement them in a similar manner to other forces. Though it would be neat if you could pick a main faction and have a different start position. i.e. Moulder, Mors, Skryre, etc...

Lastly, I would expect something of that nature to come more from the DLC... (example: a Clan Pestilens w/ Skrolk vs. a Lizardmen w/ Tehenhauin done up like the Skarsnik v. Belegar DLC).

An easy answer is: IF they make 6 sepperate Factions out of one by inventing 90 Totaly new Units GW never made, you could ask CA for making that for every Faction. Every Warhammer Faction has very different Parts(Citys/lands/clans) They would have to make 100 DLCs and Invent tousands of new Units.
You really think they will develop this game 2035 still? :)

I also want Nekerach, Strigoy and Order of Bloodknight Vamoire Factions, Tombkings of Rasetra with Lizardman Slaves and Dino Skeletons, The Evil Tombkings from Arkhan the Black, The Blood Cult of the Darkelves, Morathis Troops out of the nothern Towers, The Shadowland Highelves aso.. just image an endless list.
Sist redigert av Shandor; 23. juli 2017 kl. 1.56
Old Dirty Bingo Caller (Utestengt) 23. juli 2017 kl. 1.53 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Shandor:
Opprinnelig skrevet av Tyberos the Red Wake:

Sure, they completely could. But just like Chaos, they also fight together and have generally the same goal...

Throt the Unclean: Gee, Ikit, what do you wanna do tonight?

Ikit: The same thing we do every night, Throt...try to take over the world!

As much as I agree with what you're saying, it might be too much work for them to personalize every generic unit for a specific faction. That said, Mors is a dominant power in Skavendom generally known for having some of the best warriors and gear. They also can easily bea reason why we don't get in depth faction seperate forces.

Most of Skavendom really is generally slapped together parts from different factions. More to the point, I don't see why the faction specific units wouldn't be in their father factions colors and details. I.e. plague monks...well plague monks are a bad choice as they all look raggedy.

But special weapon teams I'd be surprised not to see iconography from Skryre, or maybe some Moulder branding on a herd (bundle?muder?school?) of giant rats.

So they have a common goal and it would be easier to just implement them in a similar manner to other forces. Though it would be neat if you could pick a main faction and have a different start position. i.e. Moulder, Mors, Skryre, etc...

Lastly, I would expect something of that nature to come more from the DLC... (example: a Clan Pestilens w/ Skrolk vs. a Lizardmen w/ Tehenhauin done up like the Skarsnik v. Belegar DLC).

An easy answer is: IF they make 6 sepperate Factions out of one by inventing 90 Totaly new Units GW never made, you could ask CA for making that for every Faction. Every Warhammer Faction has very different Parts(Citys/lands/clans) They would have to make 100 DLCs and Invent tousands of new Units.
You really think they will develop this game 2035 still? :)
You know they will develop it for that long Shandor, because you know, chubby says so.. Or else they are idiots, morons and generally out to start crap..
Shandor 23. juli 2017 kl. 1.57 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Old Dirty Bingo Caller:
Opprinnelig skrevet av Shandor:

An easy answer is: IF they make 6 sepperate Factions out of one by inventing 90 Totaly new Units GW never made, you could ask CA for making that for every Faction. Every Warhammer Faction has very different Parts(Citys/lands/clans) They would have to make 100 DLCs and Invent tousands of new Units.
You really think they will develop this game 2035 still? :)
You know they will develop it for that long Shandor, because you know, chubby says so.. Or else they are idiots, morons and generally out to start crap..

How could i forget that? Better do what Chubby says or he will turn Red again and scream at his Parents!
Old Dirty Bingo Caller (Utestengt) 23. juli 2017 kl. 2.05 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Shandor:
Opprinnelig skrevet av Old Dirty Bingo Caller:
You know they will develop it for that long Shandor, because you know, chubby says so.. Or else they are idiots, morons and generally out to start crap..

How could i forget that? Better do what Chubby says or he will turn Red again and scream at his Parents!
I imagine him/her/it to be the kind of person who turns purple instead of red, you know like when someone gets choked. He/she/it most likely gets respiratory problems when someone disagrees and starts wheezing and ♥♥♥♥..
chubbyninja89 (TNB) 23. juli 2017 kl. 5.16 
Opprinnelig skrevet av Shandor:

An easy answer is: IF they make 6 sepperate Factions out of one by inventing 90 Totaly new Units GW never made, you could ask CA for making that for every Faction. Every Warhammer Faction has very different Parts(Citys/lands/clans) They would have to make 100 DLCs and Invent tousands of new Units.
You really think they will develop this game 2035 still?


I find it hilarious that people like you need to insult people, key word being need. And I can tell you're just trying to troll at this point, but failing pathetically.

But it is truly, truly hilarious how you guys all assume I'm talking about 6 major skaven clans being released at launch, when I never said anything like that.

But they don't have to create 90+ units. They could give many units of Clan Eshin poison, they could make Clan Moulder monsters cheaper for them. I didn't think it was such a advanced concept for people to grasp.

I just don't understand how people like you can't see that they don't need to overhaul and make 6 seperate races, but rather apply a few changes to the existing base race to create the major Skaven Clans.
Sist redigert av chubbyninja89 (TNB); 23. juli 2017 kl. 5.17
Araragi 23. juli 2017 kl. 10.41 
Opprinnelig skrevet av chubbyninja89 (the Ninja Brony):
Opprinnelig skrevet av Shandor:

An easy answer is: IF they make 6 sepperate Factions out of one by inventing 90 Totaly new Units GW never made, you could ask CA for making that for every Faction. Every Warhammer Faction has very different Parts(Citys/lands/clans) They would have to make 100 DLCs and Invent tousands of new Units.
You really think they will develop this game 2035 still?


I find it hilarious that people like you need to insult people, key word being need. And I can tell you're just trying to troll at this point, but failing pathetically.

But it is truly, truly hilarious how you guys all assume I'm talking about 6 major skaven clans being released at launch, when I never said anything like that.

But they don't have to create 90+ units. They could give many units of Clan Eshin poison, they could make Clan Moulder monsters cheaper for them. I didn't think it was such a advanced concept for people to grasp.

I just don't understand how people like you can't see that they don't need to overhaul and make 6 seperate races, but rather apply a few changes to the existing base race to create the major Skaven Clans.

I think that everybody doesnt get that it is really easy to just make a main skaven faction in the game (Like dwarf, empire, greenskins, etc) and then create various AI controlled subfaction (like the other empire provinces: Wissenland, Middenland, etc) with the name of each important clan, and have them codded to field their clan units more FREQUENTLY. Later when they want to release a Lord of one of those clans, they should have an starting bonus which goes in the line of the clan lore (like the example of Eshin poison).
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