Chivalry farming

[Gorwe]

Is there any quick and dirty way to get a lot of Chivalry? I've defeated almost all of TKs and i'm still half way to full. Some 1000 / 2000.

That reminds me. Any real reason why they changed the Chivalry brackets from 200 to 400 point brackets? 1000 would be PERFECT for Repanse, just as it was in TWH 1.

Don't get me wrong, Repanse is AWESOME, just as I suspected she'd be. Well, you can always count on me liking Knights I guess.

edit: I just learned that 2k Chivarly is for MORTAL EMPIRES, why do you need 2k for VORTEX??? (with ME, I could simply rampage through Norsca or through Badlands, it's DIFFERENT!) I thought something was off, there's simply not enough Orcs, TKs etc to build up 2k. That ♥♥♥♥ ought to get patched!

[Gorwe]

Wait, Bretonnia gets extra Chivalry per Paladins or what?

...look CA, just EXPLAIN your ♥♥♥♥! Write it down somewhere, anywhere! This is crucial to your gameplay, come on!

Oh, and Vortex should require 800-1000 bracket for Errantry, not 1600 - 2000. Screw exploits!

[zefyris]

Every character traits grants you Chivalry, it's literally written on the trait. So of course if you recruit more you get more.
And no, it should not. i said it before but without optimizing anything with Repanse I reached the 2000 by like turn 85, it's actually too short and the goal post should be moved to something like 300 instead.

[Gorwe]

Originally posted by zefyris:

Every character traits grants you Chivalry, it's literally written on the trait.
And no, it should not. i said it before but without optimizing anything with Repanse I reached the 2000 by like turn 85, it's actually too short and the goal post should be moved to something like 300 instead

How did you manage that? It's some 30 towns * 30 = 900 + some 50 battles * 5 = 250 = 1150 + some 250 from traits = 1400. Still not enough for Errantry.

If anything goes south, the length of the campaign increases exponentially. Besides what's up with you freaks and idolization of super long campaigns and games? I'm right now at turn 50 and there isn't anything real that can stop me. Everything post T100 is simply extraneous, a waste of time.

[zefyris]

(i'm on ME btw but this doesn't change chivalry stats)

just be active with your lords, many traits they gain gives chivalry.
I just loaded the game to see, i'm at 2231 by turn 85.
Repanse with only her traits give +110 and several other lords are around +100.
Every paladin give +5 or +10.

i'll take a screen of the details and post them here so you see the repartition yourself

[Gorwe]

Originally posted by zefyris:

(i'm on ME btw but this doesn't change chivalry stats)

just be active with your lords, many traits they gain gives chivalry.
I just loaded the game to see, i'm at 2231 by turn 85.
Repanse with only her traits give +110 and several other lords are around +100.
Every paladin give +5 or +10.

i'll take a screen of the details and post them here so you see the repartition yourself

You are on ME though. I wouldn't object on ME because then I could farm Norsca or Badlands. Easy at least 1000 there. It's completely different in Vortex. And there is no reason why Vortex, a SMALLER map, requires the SAME amount of points to win as a 2x larger map.

I'm all for 3000, if not more, in ME, but not in TWH 1 or Vortex. 1000 - 1600 should be the bracket for those, 1000 is perfect given how neatly it can be broken down.

It honestly feels like an oversight. Or lazyness.

[zefyris]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2042304837

I didn't farm norsca nor badlands. I only expanded on Nehekara, albeit I confederated Bretonnia, that's the only difference. Literally I t hink I battled twice against norscan (rigth after I confeded Bretonnia) armies and they never came back. Not like they had the timle to come back considering how fast the campaign finished though.
as you can see repanse is not even lvl 16 and I'm done with the campaign objectives. I can literally recruit lords higher level (19 ) than my LL even though she clearly didn't sit down doing nothing.

[Gorwe]

Originally posted by zefyris:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2042304837

I didn't farm norsca nor badlands. I only expanded on Nehekara, albeit I confederated Bretonnia, that's the only difference. Literally I t hink I battled twice against norscan (rigth after I confeded Bretonnia) armies and they never came back. Not like they had the timle to come back considering how fast the campaign finished though.
as you can see repanse is not even lvl 16 and I'm done with the campaign objectives. I can literally recruit lords higher level (19 ) than my LL even though she clearly didn't sit down doing nothing.

I see. I failed because I was completely unaware of a broken piece of game design which should've been patched ages ago.

What now? Should I just cause unrests and farm Decisives? If so, what's the proper way to go about it?

[zefyris]

What do you mean should have been patched? the fact that it's only 2000? Should have been patched to 3000 yes but I don't think that was what you meant?

I didn't especially optimize or anything. Just got rid of most Nehekaran factions (not even all of them in fact) and some orcs on the side that came down for some fightin' but that's it. Pretty much only nehekara from start to finish and 1800 of my 2200 come from Lords traits that I got mostly fighting undeads or from victories I got fighting undead.

[Gorwe]

Originally posted by zefyris:

What do you mean should have been patched? the fact that it's only 2000? Should have been patched to 3000 yes but I don't think that was what you meant?

I didn't especially optimize or anything. Just got rid of most Nehekaran factions (not even all of them in fact) and some orcs on the side that came down for some fightin' but that's it. Pretty much only nehekara from start to finish and 1800 of my 2200 come from Lords traits that I got mostly fighting undeads or from victories I got fighting undead.

The Lords multiplying Chivalry is what should've been patched. It's almost an exploit.

See, you got 1800 Chivalry while I have 1000, same situation. Quite some difference, huh? That exploit needs to be fixed.

[zefyris]

what? It's not multiplying. They gain chivalry traits by behaving in chivalrous manner, be it on the battlefield, or on the map.
Literally that's the whole point of chivalry : having your lords behaving well according to chivalry code, getting honour and the lady's favour from it.
I could have gotten more for each Lords if the campaign was longer since I didn't even achieve the "Legend" status for any of them, only had several to "Hero"; they need more battle won while keepintg their 90% winrate to get to Legend, campaign was simply too short.

[Gorwe]

Originally posted by zefyris:

what? It's not multiplying. They gain chivalry traits by behaving in chivalrous manner, be it on the battlefield, or on the map.
Literally that's the whole point of chivalry : having your lords behaving well according to chivalry code, getting honour and the lady's favour from it.

Regardless, I still don't like how Total Warhammer 2 made everything take twice as long. And you people are munching it epically. To be honest, I don't really like Total Warhammer 2. They introduced a bunch of behind the scenes mechanics(or changed previous ones) and it feels horrible to me.

Give me one good reason why the ME and Vortex share the same Chivalry cap. Besides the "duh, same game" excuse. Because that is "lazyness".

[Sins]

Then stop playing the game. You hated the first one, you hate the second one, why the hell do you keep playing games you hate? Do you have some kinda ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up outrage addiction or something?

[ArchAnge1LT]

Originally posted by Gorwe:

Originally posted by zefyris:

what? It's not multiplying. They gain chivalry traits by behaving in chivalrous manner, be it on the battlefield, or on the map.
Literally that's the whole point of chivalry : having your lords behaving well according to chivalry code, getting honour and the lady's favour from it.

Regardless, I still don't like how Total Warhammer 2 made everything take twice as long. And you people are munching it epically. To be honest, I don't really like Total Warhammer 2. They introduced a bunch of behind the scenes mechanics(or changed previous ones) and it feels horrible to me.

Give me one good reason why the ME and Vortex share the same Chivalry cap. Besides the "duh, same game" excuse. Because that is "lazyness".

If you are talking about victory conditions, i agree. They should make it more flexible most of the time.

If you are talking about gameplay/battle mechanics i disagree. Wh2 battle mechanics are a huge improvement.

[Gorwe]

Originally posted by Chaotic Submissive Succubus:

Then stop playing the game. You hated the first one, you hate the second one, why the hell do you keep playing games you hate? Do you have some kinda ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up outrage addiction or something?

No. ♥♥♥♥ off with that attitude. Answer the question, don't turn it into ad hominem. What possible reason might they have to increase goal points unnecessarily?

[Gorwe]

Originally posted by ArchAnge1LT:

Originally posted by Gorwe:

Regardless, I still don't like how Total Warhammer 2 made everything take twice as long. And you people are munching it epically. To be honest, I don't really like Total Warhammer 2. They introduced a bunch of behind the scenes mechanics(or changed previous ones) and it feels horrible to me.

Give me one good reason why the ME and Vortex share the same Chivalry cap. Besides the "duh, same game" excuse. Because that is "lazyness".

If you are talking about victory conditions, i agree. They should make it more flexible most of the time.

If you are talking about gameplay/battle mechanics i disagree. Wh2 battle mechanics are a huge improvement.

Yes, I'm talking about Victory Conditions, they infuriate me most of the time. They're super crude and when you increase the number on a crude thing, you simply turn it into "cheese".

Combat is much better in 2, agreed, I won't try to say anything else. Basically, imo:

Campaign: Much better in TWH 1
Combat: Much better in TWH 2