Chaos don't attack vampire factions?

[kkc495]

I am playing Mortal Empire with High Elve ( Nagarythe ). I have replay it many times and Chaos don't seem to attack the Vampire factions at all. Even Norsca go wipe out on their northern home land, but the vampire hard get touch at all?

C.A. seem to be a bit bias with Chiaos hating everyone except the Vampire?

C.A. should fix this and Chaos should treat everyone equally.

I have watch online campiagn video as well where other people play as the Dark elve and the same thing happen Chaos just keep smashing everyone except the vampire factions.

[cb4n28]

The initial Chaos waves, before Archaon spawns, are not automatically at war with "evil" factions like Greenskins/Vampirates/Vampcounts/Skaven ect. Once the full Chaos Invasion begins though, they are at war with pretty much everyone and should be pretty equal opportunity attackers as far as I know.

I can confirm from my current Khalida campaign; which has sort of devolved into a darkest timeline where the Dwarves and Empire were wiped out alongside most of the High Elf and Lizardmen factions by the time Archaon spawned, leaving Bretonnia, Wood Elves and myself as the only nominal good guys on the map; that Chaos does attack Vampires. Mannfred sort of singlehandedly ended up fending off the Chaos Invasion in my game. But it may be possible that even though they are at war with everyone they prioritize certain factions for attack, and the attacking the undead behavior I observed this go around might have just been because none of the traditional targets were left nearby. If that's the case I agree that it should be changed.

I'm ok with the early Chaos waves being potential allies of the undead or the Skaven, that's fairly loreful, but once Archaon spawns and the real invasion begins, all Chaos aligned NPC factions (including Beastmen and Norscan my book) should be immediately allied with Warriors of Chaos and immediately at war with and attacking every other faction. Basically, they shouldn't bypass settlements they could conceivably raze to the ground, no matter who occupies them and, frankly they should go after Rogue Armies as well

[Dr. Uncredible]

The AI doesn´t play -quite- by the same rules as you, but I believe they´re roughly similar, and here´s what you need to consider:

1. Chaos will always wage war on the empire. And start at peace with the vampires.
2. The Vampiric factions are typically at war with the empire by design.
3. Anyone waging war on the empire will therefore get a bunch of bonus reputation with the vampiric faction.
4. Which means not only are they at peace initially, the fact that they share a common enemy means that they will be on reasonably good footing with one another.

Ergo: If chaos does well, unless something unusual happens the vampires are very likely to be the last ones standing.

[Supermarine]

On the other hand, when I play as the vampires I am always attacked from the get-go.

If anything, most of the time the AI is biased against the player. That's how difficulty settings work, after all.

[kkc495]

Well, In my game the old world is complete conquered by the vampire faction, all Empire, Bretonnia and Drawf is wipe out by the vampire or Chaos. After destroying these 3, Chaos then go up north to destory Norsca, which is strange because Norsca should be Chaos best friend because they are a simlar race. As for me as High Elve ( Nagarythe ) I am a bit big and there is a ocean separated me with the old world so I don't get much attack from the left over Archaon Chaos wave.

It just seem strange to me when Archaon decide to attack Norsca rather than the Vampire when Norsca should really be their ally.

[Sir uP]

Curious if lorewise there has ever been a chaos corrupted vampire? (Kemmler isnt a vampire)

[FON]

Eh... Mannfred worked with Archaon during the end times. And so did Settra for a bit, if refer to undead in general

[A_COOC]

Originally posted by Sir ♥♥♥♥♥foot:

Curious if lorewise there has ever been a chaos corrupted vampire? (Kemmler isnt a vampire)

The closet thing to a source on Chaos Vampires is, when I looked it up online a random guy on Warseer said that when the Vampire Bloodlines were being created, they were debating on whether to include a Chaos corrupted line, but said idea lost to the Strigoi line. But a character who existed only to make an off comment in the various lore books mentioned the rumors of Vampire Dwarfs.

But this description of a trait in Warhammer Fantasy Battle Roleplay seems to imply either all, or a large amount of Vampires are flat out immune to being corrupted. Though of course that doesn't mean they wouldn't serve, but they don't seem to make good servants. Based off that and the fact their souls don't go to Morr's garden/Usrian's Realm of Souls, or the Chaos Gods once they're rekilled.

[A_COOC]

Actually wait, I have one more completely unverified factoid I heard from someone that supposedly some Blood Knights turned to the worship of Khorne during the End Times in hopes of continuing their quests and fulfilling their oaths to get stronger. Since if Nagash won and enslaved the whole undead world, they'd have no one to test against and improve against. Including Walach Harkon. Oh and Isabella was corrupted by Nurgle for a bit.

[Kaelus Von Sestiaf]

Originally posted by A_COOC:

Oh and Isabella was corrupted by Nurgle for a bit.

This is the most relevant answer to whether or not vampires can be corrupted by chaos, and even then it's an iffy thing. She didn't get tempted by chaos and succumbed to temptation/chaos worship, Nurgle literally grabbed her soul while she was dead and tinkered with it. It's definitely chaos corruption but it's not how most people get corrupted.

[Despiser]

Impressive lore knowledge on this forum. I had no idea Warhammer world was so deep. Refreshing in these days of cookie cutter fancy.