helman ghorst can be good lord?

[Cream the Rabbit]

hi
helman ghorst right now look to me like the worst lord in the game
or i just not know how to play him?
i talk abut MP!
ty

[Gentlest Giant]

Helman Ghorst looks to me like one of the best lords in the game. Seriously.
+20% replenishment is insanely good and he has a huge bonus to research as well. With bonuses like those I don't care what he does or does not do in combat, he's top tier material.

[Kaaz]

he's a decent lord, he's just against really good competition in the vamp counts which makes him appear worse than he actually is

[Cream the Rabbit]

Originally posted by Gentle Giant:

Helman Ghorst looks to me like one of the best lords in the game. Seriously.
+20% replenishment is insanely good and he has a huge bonus to research as well. With bonuses like those I don't care what he does or does not do in combat, he's top tier material.

i talk abut MP

[Matayus22]

As a main LL he has things going on for him. I think it's mainly the subpar battlefield performance that leaves him behind. He is soooo slooooow on his corpse cart.

[Gentlest Giant]

Originally posted by Cream the Rabbit:

i talk abut MP

Aight! Then my point is moot.

[AVGAMER]

Trouble is being an ok lord is diffcult with the likes of manfred and vlad knocking around

[Hannibal Barca]

garbage

[Toby Larone]

Originally posted by Cream the Rabbit:

hi
helman ghorst right now look to me like the worst lord in the game
or i just not know how to play him?
i talk abut MP!
ty

He has probably the best lore of magic in the game, making him instantly better then any foot bound meele lord. Grimgore, Grombrindal and Ungrim would love to have the utility he offers.

He is just competing with vampire lords.

[Selrach]

Regeneration, All units in Helman Ghorst's army receive poison attacks(this is OP), spell caster.

There is lot worse to go by as long as you don't rush melee...

[AVGAMER]

He's not better than grombrindal in campagin. NVM OP specified MP

[Wyvern]

Hes terrible in mp, basically a meme only pick

[lump0815]

As others mentioned already, Ghorst's main assets are +30% research rate, poison attacks to his whole army - both apply in campaign only however, not in MP.

That leaves him as a better Necromancer Lord:
His mount, despite slow, is a beast when used properly (it combines a Lodestone corpse cart and a mortis engine effects-wise, granting vigor mortis (+5 MA/MD), unholy lodestone (regen aura, stacks /w master of the dead; when you bring a mortis engine ontop, you'll also get the reliquary binding as yet another stacking healing aura) AND the reliquary corruption (dmg procc-aura when in melee; x2 in the extra-mortis engine-scenario).

Sadly, as - again - others pointed out, he, as a VC-lord, rivals /w Vampires for the commander-job; and Vampires are simply better in combat compared to Necromancers .

[rorgfist]

as everybody said, his passives are good, but he is poor in combat, and have to compete with some of the most powerful lords in the entire game.

[Cat]

He's too slow, too easy to target with artillery and ranged. Then if you march him with your army, he will make them an easy target too. I guess you could do some sort of a defensive strategy. As vampire counts ? Idk weird lord.

[Hannibal Barca]

when hes on his stupid slow mount , basic archers destory him in seconds , hence garbage