Hydra or Kharibdyss

[warrickbartley]

Just played a battle , using both and seemed the Kharibdyss was a little stronger, although i do love the hydras look more and its fire attack, Kharibdyss has poison attack? looked like , still not sure which one is better , what does everybody reckon?

[Kaaz]

Depends what for.

Take hydra when fighting infantry heavy armies

Take kharabydiss when fighting large heavy armies

When in doubt take both

[Wyvern]

Hydra is kinda a general purpose killer and more oriented at killing infantry with its breath attacks+decent AP+regen. If you can get a flank shot with its breath attack(a bit tough for such a slow unit, but doable vs AI) you can wipe out entire formations in a single shot.

Kharybdiss is hyper specialized for large killing. It can do some damage to infantry, and does have the additional benefit of an extra passive LD debuff(giving it 3 bits of leadership smashing, roar, fear and terror), but lack of regen or breath makes it mediocre vs mobs.

Generally, vs AI I find the kharybdiss to not be worth it since shooting can do its job of large killing just as well and regen is a nice boon on the hydra. No matter which one you pick though, make sure to deploy them in the middle of your infantry formations so they dont get surrounded, the two units have atrocious MD and armor, so they tend to fall apart to any infantry, especially AL infantry, even non-AP versions.

[warrickbartley]

yeah but which one is actually the stronger of the two, or are they better suited against different units, thanks

[warrickbartley]

so Hydra is a better all round choice , whenas Kharybdiss is more against other monster units i see thankyou for the infro

[Wyvern]

Originally posted by warrickbartley:

so Hydra is a better all round choice , whenas Kharybdiss is more against other monster units i see thankyou for the infro

Yep, NP. Before I forget, two little tidbits that might be in the kharybdiss' favor are:
1) the potential for easier terror routing. If you have a death caster, you can drop doom and darkness in an area, dropping enemy leadership by 16, add a further -8 from kharybdiss, fear penalty and terror, and on lower difficulties you can cause a near instant rout in an area vs some factions. With rear charges and missile damage you can possibly even pull it off on higher difficulties or vs more resilient factions like dwarves or other elves.
2)Poison debuffs enemy damage, which means that while not doing that great vs infantry perhaps, a kharybdiss supporting its troops can apply poison to the enemy infantry, making them less effective vs your own infantry.

I still think the hydra is generally better vs AI(not really a fan of either unit in MP) but I think those are some things worth keeping in mind.

[OwlRaider]

1v1 the Kharibdyss will always beat the hydra due to being anti large and with additional fear effects so if that's what you consider "stronger" than that's your answer. To me however the units shouldn't be judged against each other but rather what role they fulfill and how well they do it. The hydra is amazing at its role as an anti infantry destroyer, mostly due to the breath attack but also the stats and regenerating heads. The Kharibdyss is alright against large monsters but can't stand toe to toe with the best of them like Feral Carnosaurs.

In multiplayer the Kharibdyss has a niche role of both fear and anti large, which is useful against low morale armies(Skaven, Greenskins, etc). For anything else, either single or multiplayer the hydra is simply better.