Total War: WARHAMMER II

Total War: WARHAMMER II

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HeLLfire Jul 25, 2018 @ 11:49am
Most annoying AI race to fight against
1) Skaven - Skirmishers galore. Unless you got tons of archers, or a decent amout of cav, it's gonna be a pain to chase.
Add some decent arty to pummel you while you're getting to them, and popping extra units in (I play with no summon degredation..it hurtz)
2) Greenskins. Combat is fine, but the campaign map and actually getting one of their low unit count armies to fight is impossible. Raid. Run away. Raid Run away. Repeat ad nausum
3) Bretonians. Hope your brought 50% extra pikes\anti large :P

What's your most hateful\annoying AI race to play against?
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Zane87 Jul 25, 2018 @ 11:51am 
Woodelves.

Try to fight against 19 Waystalkers without massive casualties
TheSovietGator Jul 25, 2018 @ 11:55am 
Gotta be either skaven or beastmen just because of their stupid ass ambush stance. Nothing feels worse then playing against skaven on very hard and beseiging a settlement only for the settlement garrison to ambush you and completely decimate my army. Also when I was playing as khalida with two stacks of trash skeleton warriors the skaven just win everytime because they just ambush each individual army. Of course Very Hard is incredibly frustrating in general, but they just make it worse.
Aenarion Jul 25, 2018 @ 11:59am 
Originally posted by HeLLfire:
2) Greenskins. Combat is fine, but the campaign map and actually getting one of their low unit count armies to fight is impossible. Raid. Run away. Raid Run away. Repeat ad nausum
I actually find the opposite - they are over-aggressive, and will often attack a full stack+garrison that they have no chance of beating.

I put this down to the autoresolve being turned so strongly in their favour now. They think they can win because that's what AR tells them, but you beat them every time if you fight manually.
Last edited by Aenarion; Jul 25, 2018 @ 12:04pm
Iriath Zhul Jul 25, 2018 @ 12:18pm 
1) Wood Elves. I literally sigh every time and brace for impact. Nothing seems to stand a chance against them except overwhelming artillery and even that's dicey.
2) Chaos. Love to fight giant piles of almost unbreakable heavy infantry. In battle it's actually not so bad but the autoresolve favors them so heavily that I have to manually fight what should've been a cakewalk.
3) Early game Lizardmen. It's just a long slog to actually kill them.
DD The Pumpkin King Jul 25, 2018 @ 12:22pm 
Originally posted by TheSovietGator:
Gotta be either skaven or beastmen just because of their stupid ass ambush stance. Nothing feels worse then playing against skaven on very hard and beseiging a settlement only for the settlement garrison to ambush you and completely decimate my army. Also when I was playing as khalida with two stacks of trash skeleton warriors the skaven just win everytime because they just ambush each individual army. Of course Very Hard is incredibly frustrating in general, but they just make it worse.
I actually find it hilarious even they ambush as dwarf. My armies often have 3-4 iron drakes and slayers. So they start next to me and recieve a big stream of fire to the face.
Last edited by DD The Pumpkin King; Jul 25, 2018 @ 12:23pm
DD The Pumpkin King Jul 25, 2018 @ 12:24pm 
Originally posted by Iriath Zhul:
1) Wood Elves. I literally sigh every time and brace for impact. Nothing seems to stand a chance against them except overwhelming artillery and even that's dicey.
2) Chaos. Love to fight giant piles of almost unbreakable heavy infantry. In battle it's actually not so bad but the autoresolve favors them so heavily that I have to manually fight what should've been a cakewalk.
3) Early game Lizardmen. It's just a long slog to actually kill them.
Again as dwarfs, between artillery, rangers or thunderers they don't last long.
HeLLfire Jul 25, 2018 @ 12:31pm 
Originally posted by rymeintrinseca:
Originally posted by HeLLfire:
2) Greenskins. Combat is fine, but the campaign map and actually getting one of their low unit count armies to fight is impossible. Raid. Run away. Raid Run away. Repeat ad nausum
I actually find the opposite - they are over-aggressive, and will often attack a full stack+garrison that they have no chance of beating.

I put this down to the autoresolve being turned so strongly in their favour now. They think they can win because that's what AR tells them, but you beat them every time if you fight manually.

Could be..i run a mod that improves the autoresolve results myself. (And recently tons of other mods, hehe, tried out both Boyz will be Boyz overhaul which i really liked, as well as the steel faith overhaul which was okay'ish so far)

Wood elves as some mention i must admit i haven't fought much against, since they're usually pretty quiet in their forest, and even if i'm at war with them as the undead or greenskins they very rarely venture out.

Chaos i usually find easy if i've either god really good heavy infantry myself, and\oror tons and tons of AP ranged. If not, the lube must be prepared :P

As for Lizardmen i find their "core" saurus are just lean mean killing machines. I'm quite sure i could finish a game just with them :P
Last edited by HeLLfire; Jul 25, 2018 @ 12:31pm
Green Jul 25, 2018 @ 12:31pm 
1 Wood Elves, most of their roster is annoying units and the AI can spam stuff that is really difficult to kill due to unlimited funds (WW, rangers, glade riders, wild riders). A lot of units in their roster tend to be high impact as well which makes it difficult to take few casualties even when abusing their fragile nature
2 Lizardmen, unless you go to beat them up with a dedicated army, 3-4 temple guard + 7-10 single entity monsters will destroy any of your less elite 20 stacks. Basically you either bring 19x Star Dragon or a good mix of AP AL infantry. Artillery isn’t enough normally.
3 Dark Elves, they are really good at skirmishing and overall the AI plays them a bit like the WE. Their ranged options are weaker but their lords (particularly if they reach high level) are stronger and their cav hits harder too. Also decent monsters and infantry mix or debuffs/AP/high charge bonus will take a toll on even the most elite units.

All in all I’ll say that the only faction I openly dislike is WE also due to the fact that most forest maps are super unbalanced for any non-WE army. The other 2 are a challenge but I don’t mind facing them.
Cacomistle Jul 25, 2018 @ 12:43pm 
WE. Ai just sits on really strong garrisons and then kites around with waystalkers and deepwood scouts. It makes them obnoxious to fight with anything but archer/artillery spam stacks, and low tier armies where their focus fire doesn't kill anything important but its hard to beat 2 mid-high tier stacks with garbage stacks.

Cause their armies are all just armor piercing skirmishers, the strength of your army feels like it doesn't matter nearly as much, its just about having enough units to soak their fire, or just beating them with more ranged than they have.
Last edited by Cacomistle; Jul 25, 2018 @ 12:45pm
Beastmen FOR ABSOLUTE SURE IT IS A PEST THAT NEVER GOES AWAY their armies most of the time are ♥♥♥♥ they are however just SO BLOODY annoying to deal with they run away EVERYTIME since all my armies are great and they keep constantly spreading that DAMMED CHAOS CORRUPTION I literally need to place a garrisson in their EXACT spawn locations to always take them out as soon as they spawn in otherwise it is just a tiring endeavour
coldgarden Jul 25, 2018 @ 3:55pm 
Skaven becuase if you don't keep right on top of them they reform and come back at you. That is incredibly annoying when playing with slower races such as the Dwarfs.

The beastmen because they seem to be endless and just run away so you have to chase them across half the damn map.
Last edited by coldgarden; Jul 25, 2018 @ 3:57pm
Evil Robot Santa Jul 25, 2018 @ 6:59pm 
Gotta say the Wood Elves. Get chewed to pieces by their long ranged units and Fast Cav. I have to reinforce everytime I go to fight one of their armies. It's a Total Meatgrinder.
Catbeard Beardcat Jul 25, 2018 @ 7:32pm 
Beasties. They annoy the f*ck out of me. Playing as Empire right now, my 3 stacks are far away up in the north, fighting Norsca. BM spawning and go on a rampage in my provinces. I've made a fourth stack to stop them, but got my ass wipped, their army is only elite units on gold, led by Level 20 Khazrak.
Bad_Lieutenant Jul 25, 2018 @ 9:02pm 
Tomb Kings. Constructs are a pain in the ass to fight. Plus tomb scarabs and the medieval Ion cannon they have. So annoying.
Sir uP Jul 25, 2018 @ 10:12pm 
I also hate wood elves. You're going to take heavy losses everytime.
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Date Posted: Jul 25, 2018 @ 11:49am
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