Total War: WARHAMMER II

Total War: WARHAMMER II

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Chummy 8 Mar 10, 2020 @ 2:58pm
Arkhan the black
So he's got a bonus to heroes in his army. Should I focus on getting determined heroes? I did the same with Eshin and it wrecked.
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zefyris Mar 11, 2020 @ 3:10am 
You can only have up to 24 heroes in TOTAL with Arkhan (adding all 3 types) late game. That's way too few to put more than one hero of each type in Arhan's army, your other armies need some + you need some on the campaign map as well.
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Agemouk Mar 11, 2020 @ 5:21am 
May be worth reminding us what determined does, everyone’s game knowledge isn’t completely encyclopedic ;-)

But Zefyris makes a good point. In vanilla Tomb Kings effectively have a flat-out hardcap on how many heroes that can ever have. You can only ever have a low set number of Tomb Princes as Arkhan for example, who are complete wreaking balls when geared up with Mortuary Cult items. But you’ll only ever have 7-8 (depending on your turn 4 Dilemma choice)

The only way around that hardcap is mods.
Last edited by Agemouk; Mar 11, 2020 @ 5:23am
Wh♂♂par Mar 11, 2020 @ 5:25am 
Can I hijack this for a side-topic?

What do you guys think, additionally to answering the OP, they should do about the caps for WH3's big map?

Double it? Recurring research? Unlimited Mortuary Cult army?
Dr. Uncredible Mar 11, 2020 @ 5:26am 
Lezzeee... I think it´s +2 MA +2 LD.

Meaning with fifteen you´d have +30 +30, making them essentially unbreakable ninjas.

Buuuut like you´ve accurately pointed out, all your heroes in you´re empire would basically be in one army.
Not to mentioned you´d miss out on a bunch of far more valuable heroes that increase hard-caps on construct units.
Dr. Uncredible Mar 11, 2020 @ 5:27am 
Originally posted by Wh♂♂par:
Can I hijack this for a side-topic?

What do you guys think, additionally to answering the OP, they should do about the caps for WH3's big map?

Double it? Recurring research? Unlimited Mortuary Cult army?
Good question!
I´m thinking endlessly repeatable but costly end-game techs giving extra lords and agents of whatever kind you research.
Garatgh Deloi Mar 11, 2020 @ 5:29am 
"Only 24".

I'm rather certain that most campaigns (with any faction) wont even reach 24 heroes (You would have won long before reaching that point).
Last edited by Garatgh Deloi; Mar 11, 2020 @ 5:32am
Agemouk Mar 11, 2020 @ 5:34am 
Originally posted by Dr. Uncredible:
Lezzeee... I think it´s +2 MA +2 LD.

Meaning with fifteen you´d have +30 +30, making them essentially unbreakable ninjas.

While that is undoubtedly very, very potent. I think it just shows the power of the Chariot Master Trait which Tomb Princes can already just randomly get, which gives +10 MA, +10 MD + a small bonus to recruit chariots when in a chariot.

You’d certainly have a sledgehammer of a primary army though, particularly if you geared up the Princes with various MC gear.

Trouble is, to get that many heroes will be quite a long time in terms of unlocks, and you could be approaching the end-game by that point anyway, where doomstacks can become the norm.
Dr. Uncredible Mar 11, 2020 @ 5:45am 
Originally posted by Agemouk:
Originally posted by Dr. Uncredible:
Lezzeee... I think it´s +2 MA +2 LD.

Meaning with fifteen you´d have +30 +30, making them essentially unbreakable ninjas.

While that is undoubtedly very, very potent. I think it just shows the power of the Chariot Master Trait which Tomb Princes can already just randomly get, which gives +10 MA, +10 MD + a small bonus to recruit chariots when in a chariot.

You’d certainly have a sledgehammer of a primary army though, particularly if you geared up the Princes with various MC gear.

Trouble is, to get that many heroes will be quite a long time in terms of unlocks, and you could be approaching the end-game by that point anyway, where doomstacks can become the norm.
Yeah it´s just not their style of play, OP is attempting to recreate the age old Counts strat where you do that thing, but with Isabella, who gets easily recruited, strong vampires, with near no upkeep (thanks to Lahmia) who all can fly, cast spells and fight like beasts.
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