are gyros and bombers good in wh2?

[eduardogr]

i have only tried them in wh1 and they feeled kind of useless even against stuff they were supposed to be good against. the only good part i liked about them was that they could silence artillery

[lPaladinl]

People typically hate them and don't bother.

The bombing can do some decent damage but not enough to justify their place in the army. Otherwise their ability to attack enemies isn't great.

That all said they are the fastest thing you can possible use to take out artillery. Though you might be better off just getting more artillery units yourself and trying to counter artillery that way.

[Wyvern]

MP gyrocopters are good, bombers still garbage.

SP gyros are just not worth it for anything but themes/memes. Normal artillery will do just about everything they do better. It's not really that gyros are bad btw, just that they get outperformed by everything else that comes in by the time they appear on the field.

[eduardogr]

Originally posted by lPaladinl:

People typically hate them and don't bother.

The bombing can do some decent damage but not enough to justify their place in the army. Otherwise their ability to attack enemies isn't great.

That all said they are the fastest thing you can possible use to take out artillery. Though you might be better off just getting more artillery units yourself and trying to counter artillery that way.

yeah, outside of silencing arty and dropping bombs i find them not effective enough. i would totally prefer having another thane, arty, torpedos, or quarreler unit

[Krono]

In single player they can do a lot but require a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of micro managing. I once demolished a chaos army with them, but let's just say the battle took me 45 minutes real time while it was 5 minutes in game time.

[A.Pot]

Gyrobombers can make for amazing Doomstacks when the Chaos invasion comes along.

[Kaaz]

RoR bomber does work in campaign,

[tomfo77]

My favourite thing about gyrocopters is using 2 of them as a screening element ahead of main lines so they spot the sneaky invisible units at better range for missiles and artillery to open up on them.

[6h0$t942]

Hmm...the ones with the single target rockets/railguns are very useful in taking out high value targets like heroes, lords, monsters. And small unit elite infantry, though not so much. Highly accurate and reliable, and not as vulnerable as other ranged units. High arc of fire, since they fly, so low risk of hurting own guys. I think i used 2 of them to blast grimgor to death a few times

The AOE ones iirc....eh. They were OK.

[True North]

Build the Dwaven Luftwaffe, my friend. Have fun and make it work.

[Whatever100500]

They are ♥♥♥♥. Even if you shoot all of your ammo on bomber or brimstone copter at point blank distance, you will only rout (not kill!) single unit. Steam copters can kill multiple low armor infantry units, but they are useless against decent armor.

All copters have terrible melee, can't kill even artillery crews. Only distract.

And you can't hotkey bombs in wh1-2 (you can in wh3), which makes them terrible experience to use.

BUT, as dwarves, copters are your only option of a mobile unit. So it may be worth keeping 1-2 despite all the drawbacks. And occasionally you find Grimgor in pure melee army, and just kill him from above with brimstone copter/bomber before melee contact.

[wpegg]

Originally posted by Whatever100500:

BUT, as dwarves, copters are your only option of a mobile unit. So it may be worth keeping 1-2 despite all the drawbacks. And occasionally you find Grimgor in pure melee army, and just kill him from above with brimstone copter/bomber before melee contact.

This was true when this thread was made back in 2020, but nowadays Dwarves can put Mournfang Cav in their army (albeit at a hefty price).

[veracsthane]

depends on what you are doing and how you use them. they are calvary at best. mages that use ammo if you use them as flying arty to shoot the blobs in the back. past that they are worse then arty and querllers.