Dwarfs / Skaven Military Alliance

[Jengiz]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2005612420

with all the BS the game throws at you
this is by far the funniest.
Legendary Difficulty incase that matters.

[Puppet Pal Clem]

LOl that shouldnt be a thing

[cantila1]

Haha that's funny. In my campaign I am allied with Eshin against the dwarfs, well I jsut made peace with the, I've never seen a faction so pissed off:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2005626835

[Jengiz]

just by lore , what happend to me should NEVER be a possibility.

[Jengiz]

Originally posted by cantila1:

Haha that's funny. In my campaign I am allied with Eshin against the dwarfs, well I jsut made peace with the, I've never seen a faction so pissed off:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2005626835

ofc ai asks for peace esp on lower difficulty as soon u do significant dmg to them.
makes sence atleast.
and skaven r taking most offers as long you are stronger as them :) ( and not hated )

[Jengiz]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2005667772

Mors & Eshin now.
ffs :D

[Snorri Nosebiter]

Originally posted by Jengiz:

just by lore , what happend to me should NEVER be a possibility.

According to the lore, half the stuff we do as players wouldn't happen. We don't complain about it when we do it, so I don't see the problem when the AI does it. It's not like Dwarfs have never done horrible, traitorous things in the past. Thorgrim's clearly gone a bit crazy and is going the way of the Dawi Zharr. :)

[Jengiz]

Originally posted by Snorri Nosebiter:

Originally posted by Jengiz:

just by lore , what happend to me should NEVER be a possibility.

According to the lore, half the stuff we do as players wouldn't happen. We don't complain about it when we do it, so I don't see the problem when the AI does it. It's not like Dwarfs have never done horrible, traitorous things in the past. Thorgrim's clearly gone a bit crazy and is going the way of the Dawi Zharr. :)

let me ask you this way

how often did that happen in your campaigns?
1600+H of that 1200~ ish only legendary and first time i see this.
:D

[Snorri Nosebiter]

Originally posted by Jengiz:

let me ask you this way

how often did that happen in your campaigns?
1600+H of that 1200~ ish only legendary and first time i see this.
:D

A couple of times max. It's still happened, though. The Dwarfs were clearly desperate.

To be honest, it's no more unlikely than Vlad and Manny becoming buds again and confederating, Karak Kadrin submitting to Thorgrim or Tyrion going batsheet crazy, drawing the Sword of Khaine and conquering the world.... Yet all of these things happen.

[Fryskar]

It happens because both fight the greenies, so they start to like each other.
If the stalemate holds for long enough, they like each other enough for such stuff.

[Jengiz]

Originally posted by Snorri Nosebiter:

Originally posted by Jengiz:

let me ask you this way

how often did that happen in your campaigns?
1600+H of that 1200~ ish only legendary and first time i see this.
:D

A couple of times max. It's still happened, though. The Dwarfs were clearly desperate.

To be honest, it's no more unlikely than Vlad and Manny becoming buds again and confederating, Karak Kadrin submitting to Thorgrim or Tyrion going batsheet crazy, drawing the Sword of Khaine and conquering the world.... Yet all of these things happen.

the way u said this made me smile :D

[Jengiz]

Originally posted by Fryskar:

It happens because both fight the greenies, so they start to like each other.
If the stalemate holds for long enough, they like each other enough for such stuff.

they should start on war turn 1
:D but yes you are correct

[bearfieldlee]

They have to play a little fast and loose with the lore to ensure some campaign variety.

[Locklave]

If you play Greenskins this happens all the time because they are all at war with you in the middle.

[GreenxDragon1]

Yeah I made a thread about this same exact issue, and I see that the game shouldn't follow the lore to the max. However, I feel as though the dwarfs shouldn't be able to ally with either the greenskins or the skaven. I am of the pure belief that it shouldn't be possible just like nobody can ally with the warriors of chaos. There are plenty of times in which the greenskins and skaven "ally" with each other to take on the dwarfs, but the dwarfs SHOULD NOT be able to do any kind of diplomacy with them other than declare war and make peace.

This is for a couple of reasons:
1. Dwarf Kingdoms=Dawi Tide, and they simply cream everything that isn't a player right now (please balance mortal empires; it is currently not that fun to watch the forces of order continuously win against everything that isn't a player in a non-sandbox fashion every single time).
2. Lore wise this would literally be way more than enough to have every single dwarf forced to be a slayer right on the spot for dishonoring themselves so horribly to make deals with the skaven and greenskins.

[MadArtillery]

Reminds me of when I allied with the smaller dwarf holds against the main dwarf faction as Skarsnik.