Total War: WARHAMMER II

Total War: WARHAMMER II

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Craz(Y)een Feb 21, 2020 @ 10:21pm
Which Factions fit as Nations of our world?
Ok first off sorry for the weird Title XD i couldnt find a way to ask or say it better, but what i am trying to ask is from only the Factions that u can play in games without using Factions Mods, What do each Factions look or act like Nation of our world.
And what i mean by that is like, The Empire is like Germany and the Lizardmen are like the Aztecs, or like the Bretonnias are kind of like the French.
So if u see what i am getting at or asking, what do each Faction feel like to u as a Nation in the game?
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Hieronymous Feb 21, 2020 @ 10:31pm 
There's no direct real world correlation excepting Bretonnia, who represents the worst of humanity in every respect. Most of all sartorially.
bearfieldlee Feb 21, 2020 @ 10:37pm 
The Empire is obviously based on the Holy Roman Empire.
Darth Alpharius Feb 21, 2020 @ 10:53pm 
Originally posted by bearfieldlee:
The Empire is obviously based on the Holy Roman Empire.
Kislev=Russia
Whitecrow Feb 21, 2020 @ 10:54pm 
Originally posted by Darth Alpharius:
Originally posted by bearfieldlee:
The Empire is obviously based on the Holy Roman Empire.
Kislev=Russia
Kislev=mix of slavic cultures, mostly Russia and Poland
Happy Feb 21, 2020 @ 11:05pm 
Ogres = Maori.
Snorri Nosebiter Feb 21, 2020 @ 11:29pm 
Originally posted by Happy:
Ogres = Maori.

Massive amounts of gluttony and overconsumption?

No problems with stepping on the little guy?

A society where merit is decided on how much stuff you have?

Their god is the embodiment of consumerism?

I can think of a much larger nation that fits the bill.....

Originally posted by Hieronymous:
There's no direct real world correlation excepting Bretonnia, who represents the worst of humanity in every respect. Most of all sartorially.

Rare photo of a Grail Knight on parade:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/9261368@N05/4112043686
Last edited by Snorri Nosebiter; Feb 21, 2020 @ 11:33pm
bearfieldlee Feb 21, 2020 @ 11:46pm 
Ogres are basically from Oriental mythology. I don't think a real world equivalent was ever intended on that one to be honest.
Kapika96 Feb 22, 2020 @ 12:17am 
Empire = Holy Roman Empire
Bretonnia = Medieval France/Norman England
Norsca = Vikings
Tomb Kings = Ancient Egypt
High Elves = British Empire
Dark Elves = USA
Wood Elves = Switzerland
Kislev = Russia/Poland
Lizardmen = Aztec
Snorri Nosebiter Feb 22, 2020 @ 12:41am 
Originally posted by Kapika96:
Empire = Holy Roman Empire
Bretonnia = Medieval France/Norman England
Norsca = Vikings
Tomb Kings = Ancient Egypt
High Elves = British Empire
Dark Elves = USA
Wood Elves = Switzerland
Kislev = Russia/Poland
Lizardmen = Aztec

Yes, Switzerland are well known for their homicidal, no-exceptions border defence, inserting their own god-queen into the mythology of France, sacrificing their leader on an altar every year, full-body tattoos and their hatred of anyone who isn't the same race.

Can't deny the banking prowess and quality watchmaking of the Asrai, either.
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KellyR Feb 22, 2020 @ 1:16am 
I've spent some time thinking on this.

Reikland and the Empire == the Holy Roman Empire. This is just obvious, even the elector counts thing.

Brettonia = France, largely.

Estalia = Spain

Tilea = Italy.

Interestingly this makes Clan Skryre a landlocked Sardinia, or potentially the kingdom of Aragon.

Sartosa = Sicily

The Vampire Counts are obviously Romania, or more appropriately the medieval state of Transylvania.

The Dwarves are Austria-Hungary. Geographically, Belegar Ironhammer's faction is Austria, and Karaz-a-Karak is Hungary.

The Wood Elves are Switzerland. I mean, geographically it fits perfect as they're a geographically isolated pocket surrounded by France, Spain, and Italy. They're also largely neutral and isolationist, and prefer to influence the outside world through indirect means.

The Border Princes are Byzantium.

The Orks in the southland are the Ottomans, that's... just a no-brainer.

The Tomb Kings are a stretched out Egypt.

Repanse, the Knights of Origo, and so on, are obviously the Crusader States.

This annoyingly makes the High Elves England and the Dark Elves North America, and the Lizardmen generally South American tribes. Hexoatl is arguably the Aztecs and Itza or Nakai's vassal state would have to be the Incas.

Although thematically the Cult of Sotek makes for a better Aztec analogue with their neverending procession of human--or at least sapient--sacrifices.

I'd argue Kislev is Poland, as Russia would actually be part of the viking empire during most of the kind of early middle ages period the rest of the game is usually focused on, so they'd be with Norsca.
RCMidas (Banned) Feb 22, 2020 @ 1:20am 
Aside from all the glaring geopolitical errors in this litany of ignorance, to say nothing of the simple truth that the Greenskins ("orks" being confined to 40K) are British football hooligans on a transcontinental pub crawl, I just want to ask:

Why do people keeping bringing this up?
BuhoMiktras Feb 22, 2020 @ 1:29am 
And the human kingdoms beetween Greenskins are Switzerland for their history and kind of army, and Tilea = Italy and Estalia = Spain :)
Snorri Nosebiter Feb 22, 2020 @ 1:36am 
Originally posted by KellyR:
I'd argue Kislev is Poland, as Russia would actually be part of the viking empire during most of the kind of early middle ages period the rest of the game is usually focused on, so they'd be with Norsca.

There was no 'Viking Empire'. The Kievan Rus was independent of any Scandinavian rule. Also, Norway, Sweden and Denmark had separate kings. There was no centralised rule and certainly no emperor.
Also, 'Viking' was a job description, not the name of a people.

As for the rest, the geographic comparison breaks down a little when we have to place the Crusader States due south (in what's essentially north Africa) rather than to the east of 'Europe'. Austria is also in a bit of a weird spot as it seems to be SW of Germany, and Byzantium seems to have relocated from Turkey, in the east, to the southern border of the HRE where it now shares a land border with Italy.

Any comparison to the real world, even geographical, is reaching a bit once we get past the Empire and Brettonia.

Who are the Greenskins in the mountains between 'Germany' and 'France'?
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jonoliveira12 Feb 22, 2020 @ 1:44am 
Originally posted by Happy:
Ogres = Maori.

Ogres are both America (stereotypes) and stereotypical Old European Monarchy (gout and all that ill-living style).

They are also heavily inspired by actuañ Ogres from both British and Japanese mythology.
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