Strongest Melee lord in the game

[Donut]

who is the vanillia lord in this game? not including the items or mounts only the normal base stats

[✳Sindri Myr✳]

Wulfrik

[Lampros]

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Alarielle.

Caster lord, not melee duelist

It was a trolling comment ;)

[THEDOSSBOSS]

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Caster lord, not melee duelist

It was a trolling comment ;)

You never know. There are some legit idiots in this forum

[✪ Sgt. Spiers [51st] ✪]

I thing Belagor in single player, he always seems to get 62 kills + against top tier units and lower.

[Wyvern]

Kholek, with a super close second from Durthu(the two basically fight each other down to the wire in my experience). You could argue Durthu is better in some ways since he doesnt rely on BvL though. With mounts it's wulfrik on a mammoth im pretty sure. With mounts+abilities, im even more sure it's wulfrik on a mammoth. This is obviously just for raw damage/duelling strength.

[Lampros]

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I thing Belagor in single player, he always seems to get 62 kills + against top tier units and lower.

You've got to be kidding me. First, infantry models can never compete with those who can use mounts and especially monstrous or monster mounts in terms of raw killing power. Second, getting 62 kills a battle is nothing on a Legendary Lord.

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Grombrindal.

[Cacomistle]

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Kholek, with a super close second from Durthu(the two basically fight each other down to the wire in my experience). You could argue Durthu is better in some ways since he doesnt rely on BvL though. With mounts it's wulfrik on a mammoth im pretty sure. With mounts+abilities, im even more sure it's wulfrik on a mammoth. This is obviously just for raw damage/duelling strength.

Does Wulfrik really beat Kholek? I thought he lost that duel.

[XXXThe69God]

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who is the vanillia lord in this game? not including the items or mounts only the normal base stats

If we're talking characters with everything maxed then Kroq gar easily, hand of the Gods does insane damage and can two shot squished characters, he ofc has massive Anti large AP damage with deadly onslaught to make him do more, he is insanely fast and has a massive charge bonus as well as being a badass

[Wyvern]

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Kholek, with a super close second from Durthu(the two basically fight each other down to the wire in my experience). You could argue Durthu is better in some ways since he doesnt rely on BvL though. With mounts it's wulfrik on a mammoth im pretty sure. With mounts+abilities, im even more sure it's wulfrik on a mammoth. This is obviously just for raw damage/duelling strength.

Does Wulfrik really beat Kholek? I thought he lost that duel.

I admittedly dont know for sure, but wulfrik on mammoth beats durthu fairly handily, and 1 v 1, durthu is barely beaten by kholek, which is why im pretty sure wulfrik is stronger.

[Aenarion]

These are the maximum physical resist plus ward save numbers for some WH2 characters, excluding the Sword of Khaine:

Kroq-Gar: 65%
Tyrion: 57%
Malekith: 40% (this seems very low... thought he had some native physical resist?)
Queek: 30% (poor guy)

For all of them you can gain a further 10% phys by beating Wurrzag. Kroq-Gar, for instance, maxes at 75% compared to only 40% for Queek, so Queek takes more than twice as much damage (60%) as Kroq does (25%) from penetrating physical hits.

I don't know what the equivalent numbers are for WH1 lords, but they're pretty important when working out the strongest lord in campaign, and aren't reflected well in testing conditions.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1163324175

[Lampros]

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These are the maximum physical resist plus ward save numbers for some WH2 characters, excluding the Sword of Khaine:

Kroq-Gar: 65%
Tyrion: 57%
Malekith: 40% (this seems very low... thought he had some native physical resist?)
Queek: 30% (poor guy)

For all of them you can gain a further 10% phys by beating Wurrzag. Kroq-Gar, for instance, maxes at 75% compared to only 40% for Queek, so Queek takes more than twice as much damage (60%) as Kroq does (25%) from penetrating physical hits.

I don't know what the equivalent numbers are for WH1 lords, but they're pretty important when working out the strongest lord in campaign, and aren't reflected well in testing conditions.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1163324175

Thanks for that guide!

I've modded my games to have 60 percent max Ward, so certain Lords do not solo armies or otherwise trivialize the game. But even getting 60 percent is very difficult for non-LLs, and that guide is very helpful.

[Aenarion]

^ You're welcome, it's very useful.

I did a bit of testing with mounts, plus all abilities and items. Each match up had two rounds, one AI controlled, one human controlled, with full use of abilities as appropriate (which introduces a subjective element, though not a huge one for melee characters). The top five seems to be:

1. Kholek
2. Kroq-Gar
3. Wulfrik
4. Durthu (with no casting)
5. Throgg

I put Throgg up against mounted Tyrion, which confirmed that he beats the most likely candidate from 'normal sized' melee lords, but I didn't test any hybrid characters aside from Durthu.

[✪ Sgt. Spiers [51st] ✪]

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I thing Belagor in single player, he always seems to get 62 kills + against top tier units and lower.

You've got to be kidding me. First, infantry models can never compete with those who can use mounts and especially monstrous or monster mounts in terms of raw killing power. Second, getting 62 kills a battle is nothing on a Legendary Lord.

Well i guess that means everyone who is saying grombrindal, is wrong too since he cant have mounts.

[XXXThe69God]

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You've got to be kidding me. First, infantry models can never compete with those who can use mounts and especially monstrous or monster mounts in terms of raw killing power. Second, getting 62 kills a battle is nothing on a Legendary Lord.

Well i guess that means everyone who is saying grombrindal, is wrong too since he cant have mounts.

Good point