Settra Lore

[Zeta_Enigma]

Can anyone here school me on some Settra lore?

Upon contemplating a future coop/headtohead campaign with a friend, I learned that Settra's character has changed over the years and some parts of his history have apparently been ret-conned.

How are Settra's relations with the other forces of order?

As a Bretonnia player I assumed Settra would be a natural enemy since he had antagonized Bretonnia in the past but apparently that is no longer canon.

Would Settra get a long with the likes of Louen? What about Franz, thorgrim, and finubar?

The power is everything trait hints that he woud respect the great leaders of the world but I am not sure, he is quite known for his arrogance more often than not.

Would he work with other races when the entire world is under a fatal endtimes-level chaos invasion?

And lastly, how do you think he would react to recieving military support? (IE Nehekara is invaded by an immeasurable host of greenskins, but dwarves out to settle a grudge happen to help stave the tide. Or Bretonnian crusaders helping him stop Arkhan)

I want to get a better understanding of this character since I like to add a flavour of RP to my campaigns, thanks.

[Ben Argo]

During end times his kingdom was attacked by Nagash and company. Settra loses. Nagash leaves his head on a fine overlooking his last great city as Nagash’s army tears it apart brick by brick.

Chaos shows up later and offer to reconstruct Settra and grant power in exchange for his service vs the forces of order.

Many climactic battles later, Settra and some Daemon Princes are dunking it out with Nagash. Ol’ Naggy is losing ad just when it looks like all is lost...
Settra lobs off the Daemon Princes’ heads and proceeds to rip some new demonic ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Why? Because Settra does not serve. Settra rules.

So no, I don’t think he would accept help from outside sources because in his mind he wouldn’t need it. He may allow them to help because it’s more convenient, but in his mind they would just be pawns. Likewise, I don’t think he would help others unless it directly helped himself.

[Zeta_Enigma]

Originally posted by Ben Argo:

During end times his kingdom was attacked by Nagash and company. Settra loses. Nagash leaves his head on a fine overlooking his last great city as Nagash’s army tears it apart brick by brick.

Chaos shows up later and offer to reconstruct Settra and grant power in exchange for his service vs the forces of order.

Many climactic battles later, Settra and some Daemon Princes are dunking it out with Nagash. Ol’ Naggy is losing ad just when it looks like all is lost...
Settra lobs off the Daemon Princes’ heads and proceeds to rip some new demonic ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Why? Because Settra does not serve. Settra rules.

So no, I don’t think he would accept help from outside sources because in his mind he wouldn’t need it. He may allow them to help because it’s more convenient, but in his mind they would just be pawns. Likewise, I don’t think he would help others unless it directly helped himself.

Haha I remember recently reading that part of endtimes and how he was tearing those daemons up.

Settra only tolerating others if it's convenient makes a lot of sense. Maybe working with Dwarves and Bretonnians like in my two examples would be, in his mind, merely using convenient pawns like you suggested.

Some more questions I have;

Does Nehekara trade with the outside world at all?

Has Nehekara had any known disputes with Dawi, Asur, Bretonnians, or Imperials? (I know Settra had a famous conflict with Norscans)

Does Settra view the leaders I mentioned as far beneath him or is he just indifferent to them altogether?

And does Settra have any respect for the martial ability of others?

I have quite a lot of questions but any answers would be very insightful to me. Cheers!

[Mactalon]

Originally posted by Princess Cassandra:

Haha I remember recently reading that part of endtimes and how he was tearing those daemons up.

Settra only tolerating others if it's convenient makes a lot of sense. Maybe working with Dwarves and Bretonnians like in my two examples would be, in his mind, merely using convenient pawns like you suggested.

Some more questions I have;

Does Nehekara trade with the outside world at all?

Has Nehekara had any known disputes with Dawi, Asur, Bretonnians, or Imperials? (I know Settra had a famous conflict with Norscans)

Does Settra view the leaders I mentioned as far beneath him or is he just indifferent to them altogether?

And does Settra have any respect for the martial ability of others?

I have quite a lot of questions but any answers would be very insightful to me. Cheers!

Just as a first thought if you want to play a Tomb King character who's more likely to work with outsiders then Khalida might be the way to go instead.
She has a far higher tolerance (such as it goes for Nehekarans) for outsiders than any of her counterparts, or at least views them without the proviso of "one day I will probably also conquer you" that even the other tolerant ones have.
Settra's worked with other races before but it's somewhat circumstantial and for him often depends on his mood at the time. In this regard, his appreciation of their martial prowess (which yes he does have to answer your question) and their willingness to fight for his personal goals at the time, also play big factors.

Like most rulers Settra does have a spy network that's mentioned when he tracked down and hunted the Norscans who stole his stuff, but I don't think full-scale alliances are big on his to-do list.
It doesn't make it impossible, but specific circumstances would have to be engineered so that he needs an ally against a common enemy, and is at least under the belief that this ally has either sworn allegiance to his rule or will do so upon completion of the common enemy's destruction. Individual groups he's happy to let wander off after an alliance if they've done well and shown they're not his enemy, but as a King he'd likely be more wary of the motives/moves of an entire nation being in alliance.
However, he's shown no signs of being racist or even sharing the prejudice against the living like some of the other Tomb Kings, although like all of them (except for Arkhan since he's different, and one dumb slightly silly instance in Dreadfleet by a character that seemingly forgot he was a Tomb King) he'd never work with/for Vampires since you can't trust them and they deserve crushing for their crimes anyway. Obviously not big on Chaos either.

Most nations seem aware of Nehekhara's existence as the literal land of death, but it's not an often-traveled part of the world. There's no real official trade between nations that I'm aware of, but explorers find their way in and the lucky ones survive or go unnoticed so as to bring trinkets and whatnot out. Since a spy-network does exist for many of the Tomb Kings, it's possible that forms of trade exist through that as well. I think I remember something about Araby also being a cat's paw in this regard but don't remember the specifics.

The Dwarfs and High Elves certainly know the undead roam there and have little reason to travel that way so haven't had any major conflicts with them, other than again explorers coming in and causing trouble but that rarely leads to conflict on a national scale. Settra's rampage to get his stuff back did lead to him invading Bretonnia for a bit though.

So basically everyone is beneath him and he's also indifferent to most of them. There are a few groups like Skaven, Vampires, Daemons who he'd more or less kill on sight but circumstances might lead to alliances with others, although not all others would work with him of course due to most nations having a general prejudice against the undead. Hence why you'd need a decent backstory behind why you'd make an alliance between him and those races, although again it's not impossible.

Ungrim Ironfist and Louen both wander off on crusades occasionally to avenge some great wrongdoing, if they were after Arkhan for some reason it might lead to a temporary alliance with Settra (again accounting for circumstances that somehow overcome the natural and quite strong prejudice they have for the undead).
Karl Franz has at least one occurance of allowing a Vampire to live because she showed that she actually hated being undead and much preferred the company of honourable humans, although he didn't actually ally with her (it was complicated). But if your backstory had a moment of mutually observed honour that one or both leaders saw in the other then it'd again be possible.

This is ultimately always the joy of Warhammer, there's room for these things to exist but you need to fit it in around the story lattice that's already there.

When I do these sorts of campaigns with people we usually set goals for ourselves that help make it work. E.g. if allying with Settra and Franz, we have to conduct a joint invasion of Norsca together because of a/b/c, and help each other hunt down specific lords etc.

[Zeta_Enigma]

Originally posted by Mactalon:

This is ultimately always the joy of Warhammer, there's room for these things to exist but you need to fit it in around the story lattice that's already there.

When I do these sorts of campaigns with people we usually set goals for ourselves that help make it work. E.g. if allying with Settra and Franz, we have to conduct a joint invasion of Norsca together because of a/b/c, and help each other hunt down specific lords etc.

Thanks a bunch for the super indepth and informative answer! You've shown me that although unlikely, there is some potential for sure. I also love inviting my partner to join my crusades to invade our enemies which is a lot of fun.

I don't think I have any more questions so cheers and have a pleasant day.

[Sevrojin]

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[Ben Argo]

I think one TK actually had living subjects and dealt in trade directly with other nations. Don't remember who mentioned it, but it was way back with the TK DLC came out, so it's probably buried under a bunch of stuff now.

[Mactalon]

Originally posted by Princess Cassandra:

Originally posted by Mactalon:

This is ultimately always the joy of Warhammer, there's room for these things to exist but you need to fit it in around the story lattice that's already there.

When I do these sorts of campaigns with people we usually set goals for ourselves that help make it work. E.g. if allying with Settra and Franz, we have to conduct a joint invasion of Norsca together because of a/b/c, and help each other hunt down specific lords etc.

Thanks a bunch for the super indepth and informative answer! You've shown me that although unlikely, there is some potential for sure. I also love inviting my partner to join my crusades to invade our enemies which is a lot of fun.

I don't think I have any more questions so cheers and have a pleasant day.

No worries, you too! Have some fun campaigns, make some good stories! :P