Possible New Bretonnian Units.

[Sn3z]

Title, I wondered what people think about the inclusion of the Pox Trebuchet into Bretonnia's roster. I currently making a few templates for buildings and recruitment and need some feedback. Also the second unit is kettle of hawks which would be your T2-T3 basic flyer.

**Edit its falcons not hawks but the justification of unit it very lite at best(it would probably be more of an ability then anything else which is unfortunate).

[Hieronymous]

Not a bad idea.

Progressive refinement of the Bretonnian's signature cultural and technological achievements does lead, logically, to flinging buckets of human waste.

[Battlekruse]

I kinda like that idea.

[Sn3z]

I'am kind of pushing it into being "Pox" just to be relevant to the Pox shelter building chain(even though its not exactly what the building is intended for, bretonnia does use dead cattle).

Any suggestions on how generally the pox shelter could be improved I would hear, otherwise this building it just so poor.

The idea would be;
Pox archers T2
Pox Trebuchet T3

Next the falcons, I really like this unit to be a thing, I have said previously its very difficult to actually pin point down exaclty what Bretonnia need in terms of new units, in SP the faction needs changes and would really benefit from new units, but the elephant in the room is going to be MP, because Bretonnia late game strength comes from it flyers, I wouldn't see any issue giving them a low tier flyer and these appear to be the best thing we got. I think this could potentially take the predictability out of Bretonnia in MP you often hear people commenting on or they wouldn't be used at all.

https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Fredemund_d%27Aquitaine

[Hieronymous]

Locking down units with what I assume would be the equivalent of the VC's bats, there to be subject to a calvary charge, would be interesting.

[RED /(Weber)\]

They already have a complete roster.

[Sn3z]

Originally posted by RED Floyd /(Weber)\:

They already have a complete roster.

In terms of the game they lack a lower tier flyer which would actually keep in faith with tiering that armies goes though. If a faction pushes a certain compositional strength in advanced tiers we should be seeing something that incentivzes it in basic lower tiers T1-T3(advanced army's inpart mimic basic T1-T3 army's). My go to though would be just moving down pegasus to T3, but that would do nothing for MP.

[Kaaz]

They dont really need a lower tier flyer though as they are heavy on cav right through to take out achers and artillery

[Wh♂♂par]

Originally posted by Hieronymous:

Not a bad idea.

Progressive refinement of the Bretonnian's signature cultural and technological achievements does lead, logically, to flinging buckets of human waste.

This killed me. But I would've preferred a direct "human poop" instead.

[RED /(Weber)\]

Originally posted by Sn3z:

Originally posted by RED Floyd /(Weber)\:

They already have a complete roster.

In terms of the game they lack a lower tier flyer which would actually keep in faith with tiering that armies goes though. If a faction pushes a certain compositional strength in advanced tiers we should be seeing something that incentivzes it in basic lower tiers T1-T3(advanced army's inpart mimic basic T1-T3 army's). My go to though would be just moving down pegasus to T3, but that would do nothing for MP.

Whats wrong with the Pegasus for that, or the Hippogriffs, those work far better than a low tier flyer.

And honestly doing nothing for MP is my MO, not to be like, rude or put down, I just find that odd to add a unit solely for MP purposes.

[Sn3z]

Well at the moment in SP bretonnian flyers are disenfranchised because of starting in T4 and other things are simply more accessible the role of pegasus knights are strange aswell, if I were to be a purist about the tier placement I would say that stock pegasus could be moved to T3 and the other variant to T4, but ONLY if a new building chain was to be added for flyers(both pegasus knights could be just moved down separately in existing chain if CA wanted to sort out this issue), if though the flyers were to get a new building chain there's now a reason for a T1-T2 flyer, which could be added as they would be firstly be a hand wave and stepping stone like with other factions.

For MP it might simply help to tackle predictability problems. Air is being offered at a lower price point.