Enemies disappearing randomly

[Exanthos]

So I was in a battle against Brettonia and the enemy units kept disappearing, even though they weren't in a forest. Their peasant bowmen would shoot, and then instantly disappear. Their army was basically in striking distance by the time I saw a majority of them, and their horsemen had already plowed through my line before they appeared. When their cavalry pulled back, they disappeared again so that I couldn't keep an attack order on them. This continued pretty much throughout the entire battle.
Is this a bug? There were forests on both sides of our armies, but Brettonian knights and archers don't have stalk, and my units were near them pretty much the entire match so I'm clueless as to why they kept disappearing.

[RCMidas]

Sounds like a bug, because even Stalk isn't that good once you're that close - Unspottable and Snipe would help, but those are even more rare. If you're using any mods, I'd check those for answers too, just in case something overhauled unit abilities and suchlike.

[zacharyb]

Bretonnians have discovered stealth/invisibility technology. May Sigmar have mercy on the poor souls who have to fight against that.

Sounds like a mod or bug though.

[Exanthos]

Originally posted by RCMidas:

Sounds like a bug, because even Stalk isn't that good once you're that close - Unspottable and Snipe would help, but those are even more rare. If you're using any mods, I'd check those for answers too, just in case something overhauled unit abilities and suchlike.

I'm playing vanilla.
It definately seemed like a bug when I was playing, I probably should've saved the battle to see if it could be replicated

[zacharyb]

Originally posted by Exanthos:

Originally posted by RCMidas:

Sounds like a bug, because even Stalk isn't that good once you're that close - Unspottable and Snipe would help, but those are even more rare. If you're using any mods, I'd check those for answers too, just in case something overhauled unit abilities and suchlike.

I'm playing vanilla.
It definately seemed like a bug when I was playing, I probably should've saved the battle to see if it could be replicated

Well hopefully it happens again cause it sounds pretty interesting. Cavalry charging the enemy before they even know you're Cavalry charging them. 11/10

[max2k]

Originally posted by Exanthos:

So I was in a battle against Brettonia and the enemy units kept disappearing, even though they weren't in a forest. Their peasant bowmen would shoot, and then instantly disappear. Their army was basically in striking distance by the time I saw a majority of them, and their horsemen had already plowed through my line before they appeared. When their cavalry pulled back, they disappeared again so that I couldn't keep an attack order on them. This continued pretty much throughout the entire battle.
Is this a bug? There were forests on both sides of our armies, but Brettonian knights and archers don't have stalk, and my units were near them pretty much the entire match so I'm clueless as to why they kept disappearing.

Could be Line of Sight. If ther are Hills between you and you enemy and you have no unit on higher grounds, you can lose sight.

[Exanthos]

Originally posted by max2k:

Originally posted by Exanthos:

So I was in a battle against Brettonia and the enemy units kept disappearing, even though they weren't in a forest. Their peasant bowmen would shoot, and then instantly disappear. Their army was basically in striking distance by the time I saw a majority of them, and their horsemen had already plowed through my line before they appeared. When their cavalry pulled back, they disappeared again so that I couldn't keep an attack order on them. This continued pretty much throughout the entire battle.
Is this a bug? There were forests on both sides of our armies, but Brettonian knights and archers don't have stalk, and my units were near them pretty much the entire match so I'm clueless as to why they kept disappearing.

Could be Line of Sight. If ther are Hills between you and you enemy and you have no unit on higher grounds, you can lose sight.

How big does the hill have to be? The area seemed pretty flat, but I didn't zoom in to check

[max2k]

Has not be that big. Feels even less in the underways.

[Exanthos]

So I loaded an quicksave and refought the battle and I didn't have the problem I had before.
Hopefully CA finds it, it seems like a really obscure bug

[LuckyPlaysTv]

Happened to me against the dark elves in the first battle as Taurox. no objects to block line of sight, no height differences but they're just gone and reappear instantly causing my units to dismiss they're orders. I'm playing with a few mods but none of them influence the abilities of units

[LuckyPlaysTv]

i also checked and they didn't have unspottable or even stalk

[veracsthane]

Originally posted by Exanthos:

Originally posted by max2k:

Could be Line of Sight. If ther are Hills between you and you enemy and you have no unit on higher grounds, you can lose sight.

How big does the hill have to be? The area seemed pretty flat, but I didn't zoom in to check

for black powder units it was a tiny hill big enough to trip a single model if he stubbed his toe on it.

i think they nerfed the map size just to piss people off. ive done alot of rando campaigns in different places lots of unesscary hills and treelines seemingly to screw the player if its not the badlands where orcs are or tomb king deserts.

[veracsthane]

the point btw is it doesnt take much of a hill and there are known related bugs that have a similar feel to it.

im doing high elf legendary and my archers constantly fail to swap targets while in stand your ground where they dont chase fleeing or broken units.