Can non-humans be turned into Vampires?

[Iriath Zhul]

Or does Nagash's curse only apply to his own race? Azhag is a special circumstance and not actually a vampire.

[Spooky]

Im far from a Warhammer Fanstasy expert, but id assume it only be possible with other "humanoid" races like elves or dwarves.

[ϺEƳEƦ]

In the warhammer universe it's magic that makes you a vampire, not a virus. So I don't see why it couldn't effect all raceses.

[victorlopezdelosmozogomez]

No. Only humans.

[Matayus22]

Originally posted by victorlopezdelosmozogomez:

No. Only humans.

[Iriath Zhul]

Originally posted by victorlopezdelosmozogomez:

No. Only humans.

Why is that?

[flyons_gary]

Mostly because of how it was crafted I suppose. The original source was supposed to grant perfect immortality to Nagash's loyal servants. Logically speaking theres no reason it couldnt actually happen to another creature if a Vampire Lord truly had the knowledge and the recipe of immortality that originally made them vampires. If you want a more cynical/logical reason it hasnt happened, its because the creators of the Warhammer verse found it too expensive to create such things(models) when they already had certain vampiric niches covered.

[Zoie Shales]

Just humans, Its eaither harder to puppetify/raise other races and a few like the Dwarves are magic resistant.
Also, yes Azhag has Nagash's crown on his head, all it does is talk to him and tells him to do things, but it can't possess him or make him undead.

[The Mighty Mulletman]

Only humans are susceptible to the Blood Kiss I believe. It's a biology thing or possibly how it was designed. The first Vampires were created by humans ( Nehekarans) drinking a potion of Immortality created from knowledge gained by reading several Books of Nagash after all.( cursed potion, you need to keep drinking it every now and then in order to live forever, human blood was an ingredient.)
Long story short some other races probably could be turned but you'd need to experiment a bit first to get it right.

On an extra note there are Elves turned Vampire in the End Times novels but how cannon these are is debatable.

[Chameon]

Raising the dead is actually not terribly difficult, and in point of fact you -can- do it with orcs, dwarfs, etc etc.

....It's just not a thing models were ever made for outside of a very few rare instances. There are regiments of renown for Greenskin zombies, skaven zombies exist as a major dreadfleet armada, and on and on.

As for vampiric greenskins, dwarfs, etc? It's unheard of, but that doesn't mean it's impossible. Vampire -can- drink chaos-infused blood, such as cultists, beastmen, mutants, skaven, etc, but it has a nasty aftershock to their system of basically being worse then drinking no blood at all. A good way to think of it is as the equivalent of drinking saltwater. "Oh, it's still water, it's got water in the name." "....NO, no it's not."

If I had to wager, the issue with non-human undead raising has to do with the alien nature of their thought-patterns. Orders are not orders to an orc unless you hit him upside the head hard enough while telling him to do it.

[Zoie Shales]

Originally posted by Chameon:

skaven zombies exist as a major dreadfleet armada, and on and on.

Well, Skretch was weird, Count Noctilus necromancy'd the Orb Leviathan that ate him and his crew and inadvertently brought them back too.

[Toaster Maximus]

Its one of the things in warhammer lore isn't that define, but when the flawed exoler of life was given to the first vampire, it was more or less a scheme by Nagash to corrupt humans to be used has tools, which Nagash did use vanpires for a time till they failed him and he placed the curses on them...but in reguards who could be turned never clearly defined has far has I know but vampires are more linked to human and vampires trurning humans, after all humans want power and long life.

[Chameon]

Originally posted by Zoie Shales:

Originally posted by Chameon:

skaven zombies exist as a major dreadfleet armada, and on and on.

Well, Skretch was weird, Count Noctilus necromancy'd the Orb Leviathan that ate him and his crew and inadvertently brought them back too.

True, but it is an indication of possibility. I believe there are other instances as well, such as a chaos worshipper with all of his mutations and spiritual maladies being pulled back (Krell), the aforementioned Leviathan itself, zombie dragons...there's plenty of room for other undead raising, it's just that you have to deal with them not necessarily taking your statements in the way you mean them to, and thus ending up weird.

The Greenskin RoR (Dogs of War?) Undead merc group are just zombie Orcs, and they're running what they reference as the 'eternal waaagh' and they go into battle with all the fervor you'd expect from said greenskins.

Nagash was referenced as using Skaven Zombies in his fight against the Skaven Hordes, in an attempt to hold the line. They were -far- worse then Skavenslaves (Which is an honestly impressive feat in its' own right) by the lore, but they did exist.

I'll confess to not knowing of any referenced instances of true beastmen, or, gods help everyone, Lizardmen (Beyond Croak, who doesn't abide by normal rules of undead and should not really be in any list of undead)

Undead elves are also very rarely referenced, presumably because it's actually pretty hard to tell between the rotting flesh-coated skeleton of a man and an elf.

[A_COOC]

Originally posted by Chameon:

Originally posted by Zoie Shales:

Well, Skretch was weird, Count Noctilus necromancy'd the Orb Leviathan that ate him and his crew and inadvertently brought them back too.

I'll confess to not knowing of any referenced instances of true beastmen, or, gods help everyone,

Archaon mentions true chaos beasts "free from the taint of man" living in the far frozen north. So basically the truest incarnation of Chaos are probably penguins.

[Zoie Shales]

Originally posted by Chameon:

Originally posted by Zoie Shales:

Well, Skretch was weird, Count Noctilus necromancy'd the Orb Leviathan that ate him and his crew and inadvertently brought them back too.

True, but it is an indication of possibility. I believe there are other instances as well, such as a chaos worshipper with all of his mutations and spiritual maladies being pulled back (Krell), the aforementioned Leviathan itself, zombie dragons...there's plenty of room for other undead raising, it's just that you have to deal with them not necessarily taking your statements in the way you mean them to, and thus ending up weird.

The Greenskin RoR (Dogs of War?) Undead merc group are just zombie Orcs, and they're running what they reference as the 'eternal waaagh' and they go into battle with all the fervor you'd expect from said greenskins.

Nagash was referenced as using Skaven Zombies in his fight against the Skaven Hordes, in an attempt to hold the line. They were -far- worse then Skavenslaves (Which is an honestly impressive feat in its' own right) by the lore, but they did exist.

I'll confess to not knowing of any referenced instances of true beastmen, or, gods help everyone, Lizardmen (Beyond Croak, who doesn't abide by normal rules of undead and should not really be in any list of undead)

Undead elves are also very rarely referenced, presumably because it's actually pretty hard to tell between the rotting flesh-coated skeleton of a man and an elf.

I'm sure its easier to make things zombies then it is infecting them with vampirism.

[sg1darkcalling]

Originally posted by 🎀 A_COCO 🎀:

Originally posted by Chameon:

I'll confess to not knowing of any referenced instances of true beastmen, or, gods help everyone,

Archaon mentions true chaos beasts "free from the taint of man" living in the far frozen north. So basically the truest incarnation of Chaos are probably penguins.

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