What are the conditions to allow your army to retreat on campaign map?

[Grimm]

As the title states looking for what qualifies you to be able to retreat on the campaign map? I know you cant be in march stance and you cant be out of movement but does that mean any movement left will allow you to retreat?
If you start a battle and withdraw all your forces will they jsut all die or will you retreat?

[Wyvern]

Assuming you arent in march stance or arent being dragged into a battle by an army that cant retreat, you are ALWAYS guaranteed a chance to flee. If you start a battle and can retreat, you are allowed to withdraw. If your lord dies in battle however, you are given another chance to retreat, because the game considers you as having a new lord for purposes of army retreats allowed, and retreats are tied to your lord rather than the whole army.

[Lobsterkuln]

Had a friend that did this last night. Was High Elves and went up against an army of DE full of Executioners, Black Guard etc. He said ♥♥♥♥ that and retreated once he saw that they were bunkered on top of a hill. He was brought to the campaign map, he didn't lose any units, and his general retreated from the army he ran from, getting out of range

[Hyen《A》 ♧]

Funny thing happened to me, Morghur ambushed my Fay Enchantress, I lost the battle when everyone routed. The casualties aren't that high but then as soon as i get on the campaign map her army got wiped out.

[Fey Dragonette]

Originally posted by ☆HyenA☆:

Funny thing happened to me, Morghur ambushed my Fay Enchantress, I lost the battle when everyone routed. The casualties aren't that high but then as soon as i get on the campaign map her army got wiped out.

If she was in marching stance that'd do it.

[Hyen《A》 ♧]

Originally posted by Radiant:

If she was in marching stance that'd do it.

She wasn't. Only out of movement points.

[Orderan]

Originally posted by ☆HyenA☆:

Originally posted by Radiant:

If she was in marching stance that'd do it.

She wasn't. Only out of movement points.

Ambushed maybe ? Don't see any onther reasons.

[Hyen《A》 ♧]

Originally posted by Orderan:

Originally posted by ☆HyenA☆:

She wasn't. Only out of movement points.

Ambushed maybe ? Don't see any onther reasons.

It is an ambush. As long as you don't lose all your units or AR the surviving units shouldn't be wiped out.

[Ape-tier Buffoonery]

Afaik you can use all your movement points and still retreat you just don't retreat as far I believe. You still have the option. When you see an enemy retreat practically another 50% of their movement it means they didn't use much/any of their movement on their turn.

As stated before if they previously retreated once or fought but most units still lived, then had their lord die in the second battle, the army has the chance to live one last time if all units inside aren't brought to a certain point of death (Roughly 20% or less for ease of arguement)

That being said I forget if ambushes lead to automatic deaths of armies when they lose. I want to say no because as Mazdamundi I usually ambush the enemy Skaven near the start of the campaign and I distinctly remember them running off afterwards. However I'm not sure how it works with factions that can ambush offensively like Skaven, Beastmen and Alith Anar.

Also if you intercept any faction using the Underway/Worldroots/Beastpaths then that fight is a fight to the death as well. Hyena, maybe you intercepted Morghur or got intercepted and lost the fight? Was the map more of a long rectangle compared to the regular sqaure type? Also if they ambushed you on the regular campaign did you start encircled?

[Hyen《A》 ♧]

@Cornchip Dictatorship Far as i can remember, i was encircled but the map was a regular ambush battle map, not the map we see in beastpath. Also as mentioned before it was an ambush. I couldn't retreat my army even if i wanted to and it stated there "ambush" and my 2 lords nearby couldn't join. As for the map size i think it was a square (sorry i couldn't remember every detail). The map is pretty spacious.

[zefyris]

Any single of those situations will deny retreat.

-you were in march stance
-you were succesfully ambushed (including being attacked by an army in stalk stance and the stalk ability triggering)
-you already retreated once
-you were intercepted during a beast path/world roots type undergroundd movement
-you were garrisoned in a settlement.
- there is no place to flee (for example, cornered in a "dead end" of the map)

now there's a bug that provides a possibility of retreat when it shouldn't be allowed, when whoever/whatever was leading the army get killed during the battle (if battle is played).

for the retreat distance it's afaik not linked to remaining movement during your turn. But linked to the surrounding geography. BAsiclaly if there's obstacles in the direction the game wants to have that army retreat, and no enemy army blocks the path to conturn those obstacles, the army is going to contourn them. in direct path you don't really go further away than normal retreat when this happens, but since you need to contourn stuff to go there, it takes far more movement to reach that.
AFAIk, I've never seen an army retreat for a long distance in direct line, it's always because they're contourning some element of the map that they cannot cross directly.

if you start a battle where you could have retreated, and decide to give up the battle, your army will retreat in order. if you could not retreat and surrender, your army will get wiped out.