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kekm8 (Заблокирован) 26 июн. 2018 г. в 16:24
Race Discussion Thread
What race are you?

Lizardmen - mesoamericans
  • in tune with nature
  • highly complex/structured society
  • protectors of the earth

Norsca - Nords
  • come from an icy mountainous peninsula
  • Viking battle prowess
  • barbarian conquerers

Bretonnia - Western Europeans
  • Christian-like religion
  • Noble and chivalric people
  • official wiki says they are based on medieval France

Vampire Counts - Eastern Europeans (specifically Romanians)
  • lore says they come from [trans]Sylvania
  • cool vampire/Poe aesthetic for units and cities
  • run by an elite Midnight Aristocracy

Greenskins - subsaharan Africans
  • simple, tribal society
  • physically strong warriors, shaman-like magic
  • survival of the fittest

Tomb Kings - Ancient Egyptians
  • worship egyptian pantheon
  • cool backstory- once a thriving ancient civilization, now returned from the dead to seek vengeance on their conquerers
  • Can summon the embodiment of their gods to the battlefied

And last but not least...
Skaven - Jews...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*breathes in*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAAAHAHAHAH
  • hated by all races universally
  • bringers of plague and destruction
  • no homeland, spring up from underground and occupy ruins
  • overally just really disgusting/abhorrent

How does it feel to be compared to rats? Every other race is presented in a positive light, but you guys are RATS! This is too good.
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Автор сообщения: Sir ♥♥♥♥♥foot
I'm as politically incorrect as the next person. But pointing this out seems to be without purpose other than to be inflammatory. Clearly a troll "kekm8"

Think of it as a fun fact....

Or a, "The More You Know!"

I kinda learned something here
XTS (Заблокирован) 26 июн. 2018 г. в 17:15 
Автор сообщения: Jaypinguin
Автор сообщения: Sir ♥♥♥♥♥foot
I'm as politically incorrect as the next person. But pointing this out seems to be without purpose other than to be inflammatory. Clearly a troll "kekm8"

Think of it as a fun fact....

Or a, "The More You Know!"

I kinda learned something here
Exactly.
kekm8 (Заблокирован) 26 июн. 2018 г. в 17:15 
Автор сообщения: Sir ♥♥♥♥♥foot
I'm as politically incorrect as the next person. But pointing this out seems to be without purpose other than to be inflammatory. Clearly a troll "kekm8"
Read Culture of Critique by Kevin MacDonald to understand why people hate (((them))) so much. You can find a free copy by simply googling "Culture of Critique pdf". It's the first link. Also multiple people have posted the audio book to youtube.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/182136.The_Culture_of_Critique

There. Now this is an educational experience for everyone.
Отредактировано kekm8; 26 июн. 2018 г. в 17:17
Автор сообщения: Sir ♥♥♥♥♥foot
I'm as politically incorrect as the next person. But pointing this out seems to be without purpose other than to be inflammatory. Clearly a troll "kekm8"

Agreed. Wtf is wrong with this thread? Did the idiot creating it have a bunch of racist friends to back him up on this?
Автор сообщения: kekm8
Автор сообщения: Sir ♥♥♥♥♥foot
I'm as politically incorrect as the next person. But pointing this out seems to be without purpose other than to be inflammatory. Clearly a troll "kekm8"
Read Culture of Critique by Kevin MacDonald to understand why people hate (((them))) so much. You can find a free copy by simply googling "Culture of Critique pdf". It's the first link.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/182136.The_Culture_of_Critique

There. Now this is an educational experience for everyone.

Ooof.
This is getting into pure anti-Semitism.

LOL ruok?

Raise awareness turns into here is a link to why everyone hates Jews. Had it not been for the accident of your birth (take that however you want) you may have found yourself in this category of people.

Not engaging any more since this seems to be a group of dummies thinking they are edgy and insightful.
Автор сообщения: robert.s_a
Автор сообщения: Sir ♥♥♥♥♥foot
I'm as politically incorrect as the next person. But pointing this out seems to be without purpose other than to be inflammatory. Clearly a troll "kekm8"

Agreed. Wtf is wrong with this thread? Did the idiot creating it have a bunch of racist friends to back him up on this?

Seems that way. School is out for summer?
I know this is just a terrible thread that's spouting racist stuff but:

I mean Skavenblight is their homeland. I suppose it could be considered a Jerusalem but not like any other faction has ever taken it, nor had it been destroyed multiple times etc. Was just a Tilean town before the people got cursed and either the rats mutated into Skaven, or the humans de-evolved into Skaven.

That being said: Skaven are technologically the most advanced faction with only the Dwarves coming close, and even then their hardheaded stubborness to not accept new technologies keeps them back, and they fall further and further behind. So not Jew-like.

They're also the most populated race so I mean.. that's not very Jew-like. Apart from Israel where else are Jew's a majority of any set Population? New York, maybe? There's plenty of other people who live there.

Uh what else... Skaven Ninjas. Because I'm sure Moses actually lead his people out of Egypt by throwing shurikan at the Pharoah.

I could probably think of some more stuff but yeah I guess this is enough.

Edit: I guess I should also make sure that your earlier info about 12 clans is false. There's 4 Great Clans and like a great bunch of minor clans, even the wiki link you sent us names off 14 Warlord clans. https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Skaven Actually sources 33 Warlord clans.

Now if you were talking about Seats there's actuall 13, 12 being the number that the mundane clans can sit/acquire and the 13th seat always being for the Great Horned Rat.

There's also no clan itself that is made up of Grey Seers, maybe some clans produce more Grey Seers than others but that's beside the point. Again if you were refering to a seat then yes the 1st seat is usually reserved for the Grandseer, but he can come from any of the clans, since Grey Seers are just Albino rats born and given up to the Priesthood.
Отредактировано Ape-tier Buffoonery; 26 июн. 2018 г. в 17:47
Автор сообщения: Sir ♥♥♥♥♥foot
Автор сообщения: robert.s_a

Agreed. Wtf is wrong with this thread? Did the idiot creating it have a bunch of racist friends to back him up on this?

Seems that way. School is out for summer?

Yes. But don't worry, we'll be seeing some (Banned) in this thread soon.
kekm8 (Заблокирован) 26 июн. 2018 г. в 17:44 
Автор сообщения: Cornchip Dictatorship
I know this is just a terrible thread that's spouting racist stuff but:

I mean Skavenblight is their homeland. I suppose it could be considered a Jerusalem but not like any other faction has ever taken it, nor had it been destroyed multiple times etc. Was just a Tilean town before the people got cursed and either the rats mutated into Skaven, or the humans de-evolved into Skaven.

That being said: Skaven are technologically the most advanced faction with only the Dwarves coming close, and even then their hardheaded stubborness to not accept new technologies keeps them back, and they fall further and further behind. So not Jew-like.

They're also the most populated race so I mean.. that's not very Jew-like. Apart from Israel where else are Jew's a majority of any set Population? New York, maybe? There's plenty of other people who live there.

Uh what else... Skaven Ninjas. Because I'm sure Moses actually lead his people out of Egypt by throwing shurikan at the Pharoah.

I could probably think of some more stuff but yeah I guess this is enough.

And mesoamericans weren't known for riding around on dinosaurs or floating on magical palanquins were they? If you look at any race closely you will find inconsistences with their real world counterparts. But the core inspiration for the Skaven is undeniably Jewish for reasons I have already given.

Автор сообщения: kekm8
Автор сообщения: Sir ♥♥♥♥♥foot
Wow op didn't even let commenters get racist he starts it off...

Notnsure if i am more surprised at the open racism or that he thinks he will be applauded for stating his opinion?

It's not an opinion. The creaters of Warhammer CLEARLY drew inspiration from Jews to make the Skaven. There are 12 clans (the 12 tribes of Israel). One of the clans is made up of priests, the Gray Seers (like the tribe of Levi). Their laws were carved into stone, the Pillar of Commandments, by their deity (10 commandments). I could go on and on about the similarities.

Here's the official wiki if you don't want to take my word for it.
http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Skaven
Отредактировано kekm8; 26 июн. 2018 г. в 17:47
Автор сообщения: kekm8
Автор сообщения: Cornchip Dictatorship
I know this is just a terrible thread that's spouting racist stuff but:

I mean Skavenblight is their homeland. I suppose it could be considered a Jerusalem but not like any other faction has ever taken it, nor had it been destroyed multiple times etc. Was just a Tilean town before the people got cursed and either the rats mutated into Skaven, or the humans de-evolved into Skaven.

That being said: Skaven are technologically the most advanced faction with only the Dwarves coming close, and even then their hardheaded stubborness to not accept new technologies keeps them back, and they fall further and further behind. So not Jew-like.

They're also the most populated race so I mean.. that's not very Jew-like. Apart from Israel where else are Jew's a majority of any set Population? New York, maybe? There's plenty of other people who live there.

Uh what else... Skaven Ninjas. Because I'm sure Moses actually lead his people out of Egypt by throwing shurikan at the Pharoah.

I could probably think of some more stuff but yeah I guess this is enough.

And mesoamericans didn't go riding around on dinosaurs or floating on magical palanquins did they? If you look at any race closely you will find inconsistences with their real world counterparts. But the core inspiration for the Skaven is undeniably Jewish for reasons I have already listed.

That is true. Right away I noticed that the Lizardmen were similar to the mayans/aztecs and thats why I played them first. The culture is interesting to me. But then again, aren't they all inspired by some living race / nation / group of people?

The skaven thing I had no idea.
Автор сообщения: kekm8

And mesoamericans weren't known for riding around on dinosaurs or floating on magical palanquins were they? If you look at any race closely you will find inconsistences with their real world counterparts. But the core inspiration for the Skaven is undeniably Jewish for reasons I have already given.
Well sure but a lot of your theories have holes in them.
Plus a lot of factions hate a lot of factions. No bodies likes Green Skins, or Undead, or Dark Elves, or Chaos. Lol

Автор сообщения: kekm8

It's not an opinion. The creaters of Warhammer CLEARLY drew inspiration from Jews to make the Skaven. There are 12 clans (the 12 tribes of Israel). One of the clans is made up of priests, the Gray Seers (like the tribe of Levi). Their laws were carved into stone, the Pillar of Commandments, by their deity (10 commandments). I could go on and on about the similarities.

Here's the official wiki if you don't want to take my word for it.
http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Skaven
I guess I should also make sure that your earlier info about 12 clans is false. There's 4 Great Clans and like a great bunch of minor clans, even the wiki link you sent us names off 14 Warlord clans. https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Skaven Actually sources 33 Warlord clans.

Now if you were talking about Seats there's actuall 13, 12 being the number that the mundane clans can sit/acquire and the 13th seat always being for the Great Horned Rat.

There's also no clan itself that is made up of Grey Seers, maybe some clans produce more Grey Seers than others but that's beside the point. Again if you were refering to a seat then yes the 1st seat is usually reserved for the Grandseer, but he can come from any of the clans, since Grey Seers are just Albino rats born and given up to the Priesthood.
Отредактировано Ape-tier Buffoonery; 26 июн. 2018 г. в 17:50
kekm8 (Заблокирован) 26 июн. 2018 г. в 17:51 
Автор сообщения: Jaypinguin
Автор сообщения: kekm8

And mesoamericans didn't go riding around on dinosaurs or floating on magical palanquins did they? If you look at any race closely you will find inconsistences with their real world counterparts. But the core inspiration for the Skaven is undeniably Jewish for reasons I have already listed.

That is true. Right away I noticed that the Lizardmen were similar to the mayans/aztecs and thats why I played them first. The culture is interesting to me. But then again, aren't they all inspired by some living race / nation / group of people?

The skaven thing I had no idea.

Same. They are my favorite non-human race to play as. I really like their connection to nature, and how it feels like they have the bigger picture in mind when compared to the squabbling warmbloods. The slann are really cool and I like their lore.
Автор сообщения: kekm8
Автор сообщения: Jaypinguin

That is true. Right away I noticed that the Lizardmen were similar to the mayans/aztecs and thats why I played them first. The culture is interesting to me. But then again, aren't they all inspired by some living race / nation / group of people?

The skaven thing I had no idea.

Same. They are my favorite non-human race to play as. I really like their connection to nature, and how it feels like they have the bigger picture in mind when compared to the squabbling warmbloods. The slann are really cool and I like their lore.
But I mean that's also a problem. They're not connected to nature. The ones most connected to nature would be Wood Elves.

Old Ones, and by association Lizardmen as a whole were always trying to Terraform the land to fit their own needs. Add to the that that the Old Ones doomed an uncountable amount of species to their deaths either indirectly (By shifting continents/moving the entire planet closer to the sun) but also directly (By deciding if a species was fit to be part of their plan or not, and sicking armies of Saurus on them to eradicate them). I wouldn't really say they were "intuned" with nature.

Atleast Wood Elves have a symbiotic relationship with Athel Loren, in that they defend the woods when it's winter, and the woods help them defend during the other seasons. The best that can be said for Lizardmen is that they tolerate the carniverous plants that inhabit their jungles solely because it's a means of defense. I doubt the Lizards help the plants, they just happen to be there and weren't actively targetted by "The Plan"
kekm8 (Заблокирован) 26 июн. 2018 г. в 17:57 
Автор сообщения: Cornchip Dictatorship
Автор сообщения: kekm8

And mesoamericans weren't known for riding around on dinosaurs or floating on magical palanquins were they? If you look at any race closely you will find inconsistences with their real world counterparts. But the core inspiration for the Skaven is undeniably Jewish for reasons I have already given.
Well sure but a lot of your theories have holes in them.
Plus a lot of factions hate a lot of factions. No bodies likes Green Skins, or Undead, or Dark Elves, or Chaos. Lol

Автор сообщения: kekm8

It's not an opinion. The creaters of Warhammer CLEARLY drew inspiration from Jews to make the Skaven. There are 12 clans (the 12 tribes of Israel). One of the clans is made up of priests, the Gray Seers (like the tribe of Levi). Their laws were carved into stone, the Pillar of Commandments, by their deity (10 commandments). I could go on and on about the similarities.

Here's the official wiki if you don't want to take my word for it.
http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Skaven
I guess I should also make sure that your earlier info about 12 clans is false. There's 4 Great Clans and like a great bunch of minor clans, even the wiki link you sent us names off 14 Warlord clans. https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Skaven Actually sources 33 Warlord clans.

Now if you were talking about Seats there's actuall 13, 12 being the number that the mundane clans can sit/acquire and the 13th seat always being for the Great Horned Rat.

There's also no clan itself that is made up of Grey Seers, maybe some clans produce more Grey Seers than others but that's beside the point. Again if you were refering to a seat then yes the 1st seat is usually reserved for the Grandseer, but he can come from any of the clans, since Grey Seers are just Albino rats born and given up to the Priesthood.

12 or 13, however you want to count it, it still works since Israel had both 12 and 13 tribes because the tribe of Joseph later slip into Ephraim and Manasseh. Since the middle ages people have caricatured Jews as rats. You think it's just a total coincidence that there are so many similarities? What about blood sacrifice refered to as common in the wiki? That doesn't sound at all like blood libel to you?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel
Отредактировано kekm8; 26 июн. 2018 г. в 17:58
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