vampires vs high elves?

[Ghost]

hey all, I was wondering, what kind of army comps you use against the High elves as the Vampires? i'm having some troubles against them

[Iriath Zhul]

Varghulfs are good if you can keep the archers from shooting them. They can do a lot of damage and break the Elves' martial prowess effect. Might have to go heavy on the cavalry though to deal with the archers.

Also, abuse the Vampires' powerful AOE spells since Elves have tight unit formations.

[Malaficus Shaikan]

Vampire's.
Lots and lots of vampire's.
The high elves have nearly no armor piercing.
Vampire's can simple murder and outlast them thanks to blooddrinking.
Having one or two trow the black orb of death spell will help against blobs.

General speaking when facing high elves i bring highly armored units to the fight.
High elves are a defendsive faction.
High leadership, good mage's, good melee defends.
As vampire's you are going to have to either outnumber them or outlast them.
Vampire counts are also lacking in the offensive department(relying more on breaking enemy leadership which doesnt work very well against high elves)

[Fastwinstondoom]

Originally posted by GHOST:

hey all, I was wondering, what kind of army comps you use against the High elves as the Vampires? i'm having some troubles against them

Bring a second army with nothing but zombies. Send them in to soak up all the arrows. Then smash face with your elite troops.

[Voxrox]

Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:

Vampire's.
Lots and lots of vampire's.
The high elves have nearly no armor piercing.
Vampire's can simple murder and outlast them thanks to blooddrinking.
Having one or two trow the black orb of death spell will help against blobs.

General speaking when facing high elves i bring highly armored units to the fight.
High elves are a defendsive faction.
High leadership, good mage's, good melee defends.
As vampire's you are going to have to either outnumber them or outlast them.
Vampire counts are also lacking in the offensive department(relying more on breaking enemy leadership which doesnt work very well against high elves)

And along came the Sisters of Avelorn and their magical armour piercing long rage flaming bows ... ^^ Though at least the AI probably won't field them too extensively

[The Grand Mugwump]

Heavy armor and things with shields. Elves in general will turn vampire monstrous units into giant pincushions, so cavalry with shields will see some use here. It's all about out maneuvering them though because basic elven spearmen will ruin your cavalry's day, so you need to keep the spearmen tied up while your cavalry chases their archers down.

[Sn3z]

What kind of army compostion do the HE have?

[Ashantai]

Campaign or multiplayer?

[Drakenson]

Campaign: Drown them in stacks + Heroes.

Multiplayer: Red Duke for lord sniping (El Syf + steed) or Mannfred for magic spam (Spirit Leech, Fate of Bjuna, Invocation of Nehek, and Raise Dead).

HE has a lot of anti-large options, so you may be forced to fight with infantry. Which can be totally fine, use Skeleton Warriors in the front to form a screen vs. archers, a secondary line of Grave Guard + Sternsmen to do the main fighting, and Skeleton Spearmen on the flanks + backline to rebuff any Reavers or Dragon Princes. Your win condition would be the Mortis Engine / Claw of Nagash, just don't forget to spam Invocation of Nehek over it, while pressuring any archers with zombie summons and flanks.

[Wyvern]

HE are also rathere weak vs ethereal units, so a unit or two of hexwraiths(especially chillgheists+melkoths+direpack to catch skirmish cav) can be devastating. Even after the sisters of averlorn come out, you should be able to bog them down with chaff and let your ethereal units do work.

[Ghost]

Originally posted by Wyvern:

HE are also rathere weak vs ethereal units, so a unit or two of hexwraiths(especially chillgheists+melkoths+direpack to catch skirmish cav) can be devastating. Even after the sisters of averlorn come out, you should be able to bog them down with chaff and let your ethereal units do work.

Yeah, I went with 4 wraiths and I though they would die rather quickly.. maybe because I used them wrong, i'll try it out a bit more next time I play my vampire campaign

[Uugly]

Vampire is in a bad position when facing the new factions.

Infantry, cavalry, and monster lose to Phoenix Guard.