Total War: WARHAMMER II

Total War: WARHAMMER II

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Literal AIDs May 23, 2018 @ 12:35am
So warhammer races are influenced by real-world cultures right?
High elves=(northern) europeans
Dark elves=(eastern) europeans
Lizardmen=mayans/aztecs
Skaven=chinese?
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Why does everyone have to relate games to the real world, like 2 days ago someone tried to suggest the game was promoting racism because the orks are apparently black people?
Like some on
The Rogue Roman May 23, 2018 @ 7:55am 
Skaven don't fit either the Chinese or the Nazis or the Jews.

It's impossible to find any cultural resemblance whatsoever between the Skaven and the Chinese. Stupid idea. Cathay is China in the Warhammer world. And no, we ARE NOT EVER getting a Cathay DLC.

High technology and eeeeeeevuhl are not enough to resemble Nazis. There's nothing Germanic about the Skaven. The Lizardmen are closer to Nazis ideologically (but not culturally), with their Grand Plan for exterminating certain races.

And the Skaven aren't Hebrews, either. The Dwarfs resemble Jews, both culturally and linguistically, much more closely than do the Skaven.

The Jews and the Germans and the Chinese are relatively high-IQ populations with relatively low birth rates. The Skaven are a mass slave drone race led by a few intelligent elites.

The Skaven are an original idea by Games Workshop. They're heavily inspired by organized crime. That's all there is to it.
Originally posted by DayofRetribution:
Originally posted by RED Floyd /(Weber)\:
Skaven is Chinese? Dunno where you got that one from.
They multiply quickly, they have a firm grasp of mathematics and engineering but cannot apply it into anything dependable (both military and industrial), skaven corruption=polution, they are sneaky and known to betray/backstab each other to get ahead, skaven alphabet loosely resembles chinese characters, need I say more?
Well the Chinese actually have their own race in the Warhammer universe, called Cathay (which is the ancient name of China in the West). And it's actually one of the strongest and most enlightened races in the universe.

Perhaps it's time for you to cast away your ignorant prejudice and actually learn something about history.
Last edited by Dweller Beyond the Threshold; May 23, 2018 @ 7:57am
Spangler May 23, 2018 @ 7:59am 
Originally posted by Songbird:
Empire = HRE
Kislev = Tsardom of Russia
Bretonnia = Mix of Franks and Arthurian legend
Greenskins = English football hooligans
Dwarf = Norse/German Mythology
High Elves = Norse/German Mythology and Atlantis
Dark Elves = Norse/German Mythology
Lizardmen = Mesoamerican with a dinosaur twist
Beastmen = Pagan/Abrahamic Mythology (yes I just wrote that :steammocking: )
Skaven = Pagan/Abrahamic Mythology
Norsca = Scandinavians during Viking Era
Tomg Kings = Ancient Egypt
Warriors of Chaos = English/French depiction of Scandinavians during Viking Era
Ogres = Mongols minus horses

Edit: Vampire Counts = Wallachia

This guy gets it!

To state the obvious, High Elves and Wood Elves are also very derivative of Tolkien's Middle Earth specifically (which itself borrows from Germanic and Celtic lore). Ulthuan is a poor man's Valinor. Athel Loren is just a letter away from Lorien. Throw in Doriath too since Ariel is kind of like Melian. None of the elves really have parallels to specific countries, but it makes me chuckle everytime someone says Dark Elves are Canadians.
teptep May 23, 2018 @ 8:07am 
I find it both funny and sad how many people put their own or someone elses stereotypes of a group of humans on to a certain race. When all in all a lot of stereoptypes have been shared thorugh history. One side saying the same things about the other, and vice versa. Why wont these topics just stop and die.
I do thin it was confirmed ages ago that Skaven represent the darkside of humanity that is hiding all over the world, the side the average person doesnt like to think about or doesnt believe it exists and the fears of people that know it exists. The technology crazy engineers that create huge doom machines, the (rat)man made desieses, experimenting with genes and animals three major clans of the skaven and three major worry causes for some people in the days when skaven were created. While some people didn't believe in the possibility of them going wrong, other found them frightening. And then theres the everyman for himself dark side of many a human. They just picked ratmen since it hadnt been done before and it was fitting. No anti jew agenda or anything there.
Tanaka Khan May 23, 2018 @ 8:22am 
Originally posted by Emperor Trump:
Lizardmen: Classic Maya (although their names resemble both Maya and Nahuatl linguistically: e.g. Hexoatl sounds Nahuatl, and Itza sounds Maya). They are represented as dinosaurs instead of humanoids to emphasize how ancient they are. They are the oldest intelligent race in the Warhammer world.

High Elves: The Elf race represents the aspirations of European people. Beautiful, artistic, one with nature, protectors of the world, givers and keepers of knowledge. Originated with Tolkien, inspired by Norse myth. In addition, if we place the Warhammer world in Earth's last Ice Age, Naggaroth is ice-covered North America and Ulthuan is Atlantis.

Dark Elves: The opposite of the High Elves. Represent the worst European faults: hedonism, exploitation of others.

Greenskins: African tribesmen / British working class

Kislev: Medieval Russia

Norsca: Twisted Vikings

Warriors of Chaos: Really Twisted Vikings

The Empire: Holy Roman Empire

Vampire Counts: Unholy Roman Empire

Bretonnia: Arthurian Britain / Medieval France

Tomb Kings: Dynastic Egypt

Dwarfs are straight from Tolkien, with more technology. The Skaven have no analog except maybe organized crime.
What about Wood Elves? Everyone keeps forgetting Wood Elves!!!
SpaceGoatMage May 23, 2018 @ 8:24am 
No Chaos Dwarf love in this thread?
The Rogue Roman May 23, 2018 @ 8:33am 
Originally posted by Tanaka Khan:
What about Wood Elves? Everyone keeps forgetting Wood Elves!!!

Hippies
Skaven confirmed Chinese Jews :steammocking:
Originally posted by Tanaka Khan:
Originally posted by Emperor Trump:
Lizardmen: Classic Maya (although their names resemble both Maya and Nahuatl linguistically: e.g. Hexoatl sounds Nahuatl, and Itza sounds Maya). They are represented as dinosaurs instead of humanoids to emphasize how ancient they are. They are the oldest intelligent race in the Warhammer world.

High Elves: The Elf race represents the aspirations of European people. Beautiful, artistic, one with nature, protectors of the world, givers and keepers of knowledge. Originated with Tolkien, inspired by Norse myth. In addition, if we place the Warhammer world in Earth's last Ice Age, Naggaroth is ice-covered North America and Ulthuan is Atlantis.

Dark Elves: The opposite of the High Elves. Represent the worst European faults: hedonism, exploitation of others.

Greenskins: African tribesmen / British working class

Kislev: Medieval Russia

Norsca: Twisted Vikings

Warriors of Chaos: Really Twisted Vikings

The Empire: Holy Roman Empire

Vampire Counts: Unholy Roman Empire

Bretonnia: Arthurian Britain / Medieval France

Tomb Kings: Dynastic Egypt

Dwarfs are straight from Tolkien, with more technology. The Skaven have no analog except maybe organized crime.
What about Wood Elves? Everyone keeps forgetting Wood Elves!!!
Aren't the Wood Elves like Scottish/ Celtic?
Kaaz May 23, 2018 @ 9:19am 
Originally posted by SpaceGoatMage:
No Chaos Dwarf love in this thread?

Chaos dwarves dont need love. They have earthquake generators and massive demonic bulls
Pilgrim May 23, 2018 @ 9:29am 
Originally posted by RED Floyd /(Weber)\:
Skaven is Chinese? Dunno where you got that one from.
because they have no individuality and are expendable
Prester May 23, 2018 @ 10:05am 
Originally posted by RED Floyd /(Weber)\:
Skaven is Chinese? Dunno where you got that one from.

the best line

but i'd argue that skaven are even more indian ... they smell of poop and are growing inendless numbers
teptep May 23, 2018 @ 10:07am 
Originally posted by Prester:
Originally posted by RED Floyd /(Weber)\:
Skaven is Chinese? Dunno where you got that one from.

the best line

but i'd argue that skaven are even more indian ... they smell of poop and are growing inendless numbers
How dare you say that they smell like poop? Skaven murder-kill ratcist man thing
Originally posted by SpaceGoatMage:
No Chaos Dwarf love in this thread?
Something like ancient middle east - Babilon and Assyria
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