Where in the Timeline Are We?

[Goodyear]

I can't seem to figure out exactly where to place everything that's going on. I can assume the two games take place after 2502, and Karl Franz is Emperor, though the first game claims he is the "new" empoeror. Eye of the Vortex starts off seeing the twin tailed comet of Sothek, which The End Times says happens in 2519. I don't remember anything in the books or short stories about what's happening in the game, so are these technically non-canon events we're playing?

[Slex]

Yes and no. We're in the End Times (since Archaon exists), but it's just mishmash. Plus the comet in Vortex isn't actually a comet but a skaven.

Like every total war game, it takes a snapshot of a time period, then puts the picture in a sandbox and lets you play around.

[Ruinae Retroque Rursus]

Originally posted by Goodyear:

so are these technically non-canon events we're playing?

More or less. However Warhammer canon makes less sense than the events in WH2 TW, so you're basically free to pick and mix.

[Mogletmox]

so the devs i think used the end times as a base point in the timeline to work with
2519 ish

they then played sround with it
vlad is gone by this stage as is azhag but here they are

we do have chaos invasion mechanik which again suggests end times.

i wouldnt say the game follows a strict timeline

the events in game are non cannon and should be seen as such otherwise ppl would be screaming they dont follow the timeline exactly


and the forum is bad enough already hehe

[Mactalon]

The game is not set in the End Times, it starts at the same time as Karl Franz gets elected to Emperor, from there it kinda goes where it goes. The only characters who I think are supposedly not around at this point are Vlad and Isabella but being undead already it's well within the logic of the lore that they can be revived to do things again. Mannfred was resurrcted basically by accident XD So yes, even though Azhag does die in the lore, he was still around at this early point in the setting.

[Slex]

Originally posted by Mogletmox:

so the devs i think used the end times as a base point in the timeline to work with
2519 ish

they then played sround with it
vlad is gone by this stage as is azhag but here they are

we do have chaos invasion mechanik which again suggests end times.

i wouldnt say the game follows a strict timeline

the events in game are non cannon and should be seen as such otherwise ppl would be screaming they dont follow the timeline exactly


and the forum is bad enough already hehe

Vlad is still around in the End Times. Iunno if he 'died' sometime beforehand but he shows up near the Auric Bastion to give the Empire a hand with the chaos invasion.

[Slamadam]

the empire campaign starts with karl beeing the new emp, so it's somewhere around that. but it's not canon anyways. it starts there-ish. than moves into endtimes

[Slamadam]

Originally posted by ¯\_(ツ)_/¯:

Originally posted by Mogletmox:

so the devs i think used the end times as a base point in the timeline to work with
2519 ish

they then played sround with it
vlad is gone by this stage as is azhag but here they are

we do have chaos invasion mechanik which again suggests end times.

i wouldnt say the game follows a strict timeline

the events in game are non cannon and should be seen as such otherwise ppl would be screaming they dont follow the timeline exactly


and the forum is bad enough already hehe

Vlad is still around in the End Times. Iunno if he 'died' sometime beforehand but he shows up near the Auric Bastion to give the Empire a hand with the chaos invasion.

nagash revives vlad after mannfred and arkhan summon him. he was dead prior to that

[Mogletmox]

Originally posted by Mactalon:

The game is not set in the End Times, it starts at the same time as Karl Franz gets elected to Emperor, from there it kinda goes where it goes. The only characters who I think are supposedly not around at this point are Vlad and Isabella but being undead already it's well within the logic of the lore that they can be revived to do things again. Mannfred was resurrcted basically by accident XD So yes, even though Azhag does die in the lore, he was still around at this early point in the setting.

karl gets emperor in 2502
but hte twin tailed ocmet isnt suppsoed to hapen till 2519

so you could say they condensed the timelien so thy all happen at the same time

or at least for the storm of chaos ? which happens even 2521

[zefyris]

The campaign is a bit lenient with the exact date, on about 20 years range, they take whatever time in there is more convenient to make said race interesting to play, rather than the same specific time for everyone.
Also it's not the real twin tailed comet, so don't base your answer on that.
date is around 2500,+-10 years at most.

[Trooper #900129-H]

I believe it's deliberatly vague.

Look at the turn counter; We're just marking turns by number as opposed to months/years usually counted in historical titles.
We don't even know how much time is supposed to pass between turns.


As mentioned, we're loosely around the time Franz get's crowned Emperor.
It seems the game is setup to broadly frame the events and state-of-the-world between this period and "a" end-of-the-world scenario.

I feel it doesnt really need to be more specific anyway since as soon as you hit turn two, lore/canon goes out of the window and the timeline/history is whatever you make it through gameplay.

[Songbird]

They said that Total War Warhammer is timeless, which is the reason for no seasons and that all the legendary lords have a potential to be fielded.

The only limit is no end times content as far as I am aware.

[Mactalon]

Originally posted by Songbird:

They said that Total War Warhammer is timeless, which is the reason for no seasons and that all the legendary lords have a potential to be fielded.

The only limit is no end times content as far as I am aware.

Yeah it's pretty much that.

This has been discussed a few times on the forum and the official date for the game starting is Karl Franz's ascension to the role of Empereror, everything is pretty much where it is at that point in the timeline, and from there it follows whatever happens with the players. The only additions they've made are Vlad and Isabella but everyone else is pretty much supposed to be around at this point.

It's not the official End Times, or Storm of Chaos or any of those other things.

It only gets a little confusing because The End Times means two things.

A. The event where an Everchosen of Chaos leads the (mostly) united armies of doom out of the wastes to destroy the world.

and

B. The actual real life campaign/end of the Warhammer setting a few years ago.

The only one of these we see in the Total War game is A, but that's only because it happens to be what you call the event where the armies of Chaos come out.

It's not the same one that ended the setting of Warhammer, hence why there's no Auric Bastion or any of that other stuff, that doesn't exist here and they've said they have no intention of covering it at this time.

Edit: Vortex campaign is a side thing though, more of a "if X happened, this is what else would happen" kinda thing. Set around the same time obviously due to the characters involved, but no where specific.

[Mogletmox]

Originally posted by Mactalon:

Originally posted by Songbird:

They said that Total War Warhammer is timeless, which is the reason for no seasons and that all the legendary lords have a potential to be fielded.

The only limit is no end times content as far as I am aware.

Yeah it's pretty much that.

This has been discussed a few times on the forum and the official date for the game starting is Karl Franz's ascension to the role of Empereror, everything is pretty much where it is at that point in the timeline, and from there it follows whatever happens with the players. The only additions they've made are Vlad and Isabella but everyone else is pretty much supposed to be around at this point.

It's not the official End Times, or Storm of Chaos or any of those other things.

It only gets a little confusing because The End Times means two things.

A. The event where an Everchosen of Chaos leads the (mostly) united armies of doom out of the wastes to destroy the world.

and

B. The actual real life campaign/end of the Warhammer setting a few years ago.

The only one of these we see in the Total War game is A, but that's only because it happens to be what you call the event where the armies of Chaos come out.

It's not the same one that ended the setting of Warhammer, hence why there's no Auric Bastion or any of that other stuff, that doesn't exist here and they've said they have no intention of covering it at this time.

Edit: Vortex campaign is a side thing though, more of a "if X happened, this is what else would happen" kinda thing. Set around the same time obviously due to the characters involved, but no where specific.

but mom ....

[lPaladinl]

I'm noticing that people are bringing up Karl Franz being a new emperor, but then speaking of the Vortex soon after.

The first and second game don't have to exist within the same timespan specifically, they're both completely seperate campaigns afterall, with the connected campaign taking more liberties.

[Slex]

What timeline are we in? The darkest timeline of course. The timeline where game shops advertise Fortnight Money with the phrase "Dab your way to victory" shudder