Is the lizardmen langauge that they speak in the game are a real language of some rare people/race?

[kkc495]

Is the lizardmen langauge that they speak in the game are a real language of some rare people/race?

What country of language is the lizardmen using in the game? Do anyone know?

[SpaceGoatMage]

They are using a language called Saurian. Its completely made up, but it has a complete alphabet and some translated words.

https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Saurian

[Mojo Amok]

Some of the Lizardman names of regions or characters is reminiscent of Meso-American languages, which is the source material for much of their design (especially the visual design). I'm not sure if the vocalization of it is the same, but the vowel combinations with X's, C's and Z's is similar and quite distinct.

[Toby Larone]

Originally posted by Mojo Amok:

Some of the Lizardman names of regions or characters is reminiscent of Meso-American languages, which is the source material for much of their design (especially the visual design). I'm not sure if the vocalization of it is the same, but the vowel combinations with X's, C's and Z's is similar and quite distinct.

I mean most of them are jokes Tiktaq'to, Tehenhauin, Lord Kroak.

[KOS]

CuaqTenq-KaiTehe !
ZlatXlaMundi
Huini-Cho-Goq...

[dt Walter Robinson]

Originally posted by the Spanish Inquisition:

I mean most of them are jokes Tiktaq'to, Tehenhauin, Lord Kroak.

My skink adviser is named Yoodonwannadoozat.

It's not very fruitful to read too much into the very superficial resemblance Lizardmen speech has with any real life language, I'm not sure why people choose to do so.

[Mojo Amok]

Ehhh, I think the similarities speak for themselves.

Here's a mix of actual Meso-American place names and TWW 2 Region names:

Axlotl
Tazumal
Cuexotl
Oxyl
Yuatek
Cuexotl
Xochicalco
Hualotal
Mlexigaur
Cacaxtla
Teotihuacan
Oaxaca
Tlanxla
Topoxte
Chupayotl
Xunantunich
Tlaxtlan
Tlaqua
Tzintzuntzan

Suffice to say I would be failing an attempt to detangle them unless I was looking at the Warhammer map.

[dt Walter Robinson]

A very superficial resemblance; it doesn't really get any deeper than that.

"Klingon" is a more legitimate language than what Lizardmen speak.

[Mojo Amok]

Originally posted by The Ayatollah of Rock n' Rollah:

A very superficial resemblance; it doesn't really get any deeper than that.

"Klingon" is a more legitimate language than what Lizardmen speak.

Legitimate or not, the structure of the sounds is Mesoamerican with the combinations of letters being quite distinct. Who else follows a T with an L or an X with a T? Who else even uses that many X's without pronouncing it like a Z?

But anyway, its all doubling down on the initial source material.

It's moved away from the direct initial inspiration as they built up their own lore, but take a look at the old Slann list from the 3rd edition army book - they literally had eagle and Jaguar warriors with warrior priests of Quetzalcoatl, a deity from Meso-America.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/100191674/Warhammer-Armies

These aren't coincidences and there's still roots of Mesoamerican in all things Lizardmen.

[Mojo Amok]

Also, for the OP or anyone interested, I did come across a deep dive into the Lizardman language on Lustria Online (premier Lizardman nerd site - the other factions have an equivalent too):

http://lustria-online.com/threads/high-saurian.8006/

Not that I'm necessarily endorsing any of us reading all that and becoming experts on High Saurian, but....it's there.

[dt Walter Robinson]

Originally posted by Mojo Amok:

These aren't coincidences and there's still roots of Mesoamerican in all things Lizardmen.

Nobody is denying the inspiration, but the actual scholarly work of GW is non-existent, because all they did was very superficial.

But the OP is asking about what the Lizardmen are literally saying in the game, but what they are literally saying isn't a human language, it's nonsense.

The place-names of the Lizardmen are based on real life, but those names and their proper pronunciation are alien to what we are hearing from the characters in the game.

[yuzhonglu]

Sauuuuuuurrrrrus. Grook. Graaaaaaaaaaaaaaak. (best voice acting in the game).

[kkc495]

Thanks, that is very interesting info.

[Mojo Amok]

Originally posted by The Ayatollah of Rock n' Rollah:

Originally posted by Mojo Amok:

But the OP is asking about what the Lizardmen are literally saying in the game, but what they are literally saying isn't a human language, it's nonsense.

The place-names of the Lizardmen are based on real life, but those names and their proper pronunciation are alien to what we are hearing from the characters in the game.

Well, when you put it like that - yes, that's fair. The oldest source material and the spelling is Meso-American and there's still definite linkages, especially with the place-names, but the lore moved along and the voice acting is it's own thing. Voice actors aren't really going to be hip-and-hip with lore 99% of the time.

Some of the names are just silly (Tick-Tack-Toe), but even in those cases there's still phonetic linkages to ancient pronunciation.

But overall, I think for the purposes of the thread mentioning the Meso-American connections is constructive.

[Jakal, Lady kisser]

Originally posted by Mojo Amok:

These aren't coincidences and there's still roots of Mesoamerican in all things Lizardmen.

if you mean "they cribbed words off of a book about aztec/omec stuff and chopped them up" then yeah sure but they didn't do any research into the actual language.

[Leto]

i love the lizardmen voices they crack me up all the time