How do i get a warpstone settlement without declaring war ?

[Red Blade]

So... i'm doing the Skaven campaign, and i ended up in a fairly bad situation were i totally forgot about getting the first warpstone settlement for the first part of the ritual (i focused more on conquering the closest cities on the map to level up a bit), and it got stealed by a rival Skaven clan. Now... first of all, ok that, as the plot says, Skaven backstabs each other everytime, but i personally want to keep relationships with my own kind good, and second... this clan has advanced units, while mine it's still basically at the start and will surely be crushed in no time. Diplomacy with them won't work because my reputation seems to not be high enough. Is there a way to solve this without bloodshed ? Or should i start the game from the beginning ? ^^"

[zefyris]

if you're skryre, yes through a doomsphere, but it's quite long (16 turns+) and costly.
But the truth is, it doesn't matter if you didn't take it. Focus on properly expanding, getting the best eco you can, increasing your empire. It doesn't matter if you're late in the vortex race.

[Red Blade]

Originally posted by zefyris:

if you're skryre, yes through a doomsphere, but it's quite long (16 turns+) and costly.
But the truth is, it doesn't matter if you didn't take it. Focus on properly expanding, getting the best eco you can, increasing your empire. It doesn't matter if you're late in the vortex race.

Uh... if you say so ^^"

[Chaoslink]

Confederation will be available eventually, but honestly, just expand elsewhere. You can win the vortex campaign without ever performing a ritual.

[Red Blade]

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

Confederation will be available eventually, but honestly, just expand elsewhere. You can win the vortex campaign without ever performing a ritual.

I tought that doing rituals was the purpose of the whole campaign tho ^^"

[Elitewrecker PT]

It's the purpose, but you can still go for a domination victory instead.

[Chaoslink]

Originally posted by Red Blade:

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

Confederation will be available eventually, but honestly, just expand elsewhere. You can win the vortex campaign without ever performing a ritual.

I tought that doing rituals was the purpose of the whole campaign tho ^^"

Yes, but if you eliminate all the competition, you’re the only one competing. Thusly, victory by default.

[Red Blade]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

It's the purpose, but you can still go for a domination victory instead.

Originally posted by Chaoslink:

Originally posted by Red Blade:

I tought that doing rituals was the purpose of the whole campaign tho ^^"

Yes, but if you eliminate all the competition, you’re the only one competing. Thusly, victory by default.

Oh... i should have tought about that before ^^"
Sorry, i recently started this game (and the Total War series in general as well), and i still have a lot to learn DX

[Palumtra]

I went for Confederation (playing as Queek), gave the clan some money and signed non aggression pact right at the beginning whilst started to eliminate the Fortress of Dawn (which also raised their attitude towrds me) and later the lizard guys. Eventualy the other clan showed up too to sign treaties and they like what I was doing too. Once the confederation is done you can single handedly eliminiate all opposition or do the rituals. I went for the ritual way to see what it gives whilst terrorizing the unlucky remaining opposition.

[Inardesco]

Originally posted by Red Blade:

Originally posted by zefyris:

if you're skryre, yes through a doomsphere, but it's quite long (16 turns+) and costly.
But the truth is, it doesn't matter if you didn't take it. Focus on properly expanding, getting the best eco you can, increasing your empire. It doesn't matter if you're late in the vortex race.

Uh... if you say so ^^"

Vortex is easy. Most races get rekt by chaos stacks anyway

[Red Blade]

Originally posted by Palumtra:

I went for Confederation (playing as Queek), gave the clan some money and signed non aggression pact right at the beginning whilst started to eliminate the Fortress of Dawn (which also raised their attitude towrds me) and later the lizard guys. Eventualy the other clan showed up too to sign treaties and they like what I was doing too. Once the confederation is done you can single handedly eliminiate all opposition or do the rituals. I went for the ritual way to see what it gives whilst terrorizing the unlucky remaining opposition.

Sounds like a good tip. I will keep that in mind (since i'm also playing as Queek), thanks ^^

[Red Blade]

Originally posted by Inardesco:

Originally posted by Red Blade:

Uh... if you say so ^^"

Vortex is easy. Most races get rekt by chaos stacks anyway

That's good to know, i guess ^^"

[CryoSynth]

Also, if any faction gets to the final ritual before you, you get a chance to fight them in the final battle, and it's not a hard fight. If you win it, they're out of the race permanently.

So even if you fall behind, and also don't manage to win through domination before they reach the end, all you have to do is win that final battle to stop them winning.

In that event, you have unlimited time to complete your rituals.

[Inardesco]

More often than not, they struggle on the 2nd and 3rd ritual against the chaos stacks

[Red Blade]

Originally posted by CryoSynth:

Also, if any faction gets to the final ritual before you, you get a chance to fight them in the final battle, and it's not a hard fight. If you win it, they're out of the race permanently.

So even if you fall behind, and also don't manage to win through domination before they reach the end, all you have to do is win that final battle to stop them winning.

In that event, you have unlimited time to complete your rituals.

Oh, that's perfect. I still have to get advanced units for my clan (and i personally still have to get better at battles in general) but if it can eventially be solved all in one fight, that's very good ^^

[Red Blade]

Originally posted by Inardesco:

More often than not, they struggle on the 2nd and 3rd ritual against the chaos stacks

That's good xP