how to counter monster spam as high elves?

[mithrin]

just played a quick battle as HE and opponent was Vamp Coast

he brought noctilus on necrofex, brought 2 giant crab things and had arty in the back. I couldn't stop the necrofex and giant crabs with lothern and swordmasters, my cav was effective but not enough.

[Inardesco]

Swordmasters are anti-infantry. You want Phoenix Guard against large units.

Those units are also very easy targets for Sisters of Avelorn that should melt them easily.

Arty is easily countered with bolt throwers.

[zefyris]

why is every HE player on this board spamming swordmasters lately? neither them nor your cavalry(except fireborns) are antilarge. Lothern sea guard are antilarge but they're not going to compete against top of the line monsters, they're good at repelling light cavalry and fast monsters flanking into your missile infantry, not here to hold the line against giant anti infantry monsters.
Anyway, you've got monster killer spêcialist in the HE army. the archer hero (handmaiden), the noble hero are two heroes with a massive bonus against large, they can do pretty well against anything large, especially if they're on an horse against an anti infantry monster; the phoenix guards, moon dragons are also some better choice for big baddies (i'm not a huge fan of dragons as high elves though).

The necrofex colosuses are some of the scarriest monsters out there, so you'll want to be particularly warry of those during battles, but you'll eat crab for dinner if any giant crab gets in contact with phoenix guards. I hope you like crab meat, as you'll have some at every meal for a while.

[Wyvern]

swordmasters are a horrible choice vs vamp coast and completely unnecessary.

go cheap on the frontline, spearmen will do perfectly fine, a unit or two of white lions can be thrown in to help out vs depth guard, but personally I usually dont even bother with that.

Teclis+2xNobles, or Allarielle+2xNobles gives you a good roving goon and antilarge squad.

Mass archers and cheap cav for the rest of it, maybe with a unit or two of sisters of averlorn. Make it hard for your opponent to get a good engage on you. You can also run bolt throwers, though personalyl im not as much of a fan of these(since im an aggressive player and dont like sitting defending arty)

[mithrin]

Originally posted by zefyris:

why is every HE player on this board spamming swordmasters lately? neither them nor your cavalry(except fireborns) are antilarge. Lothern sea guard are antilarge but they're not going to compete against top of the line monsters, they're good at repelling light cavalry and fast monsters flanking into your missile infantry, not here to hold the line against giant anti infantry monsters.
Anyway, you've got monster killer spêcialist in the HE army. the archer hero (handmaiden), the noble hero are two heroes with a massive bonus against large, they can do pretty well against anything large, especially if they're on an horse against an anti infantry monster; the phoenix guards, moon dragons are also some better choice for big baddies (i'm not a huge fan of dragons as high elves though).

The necrofex colosuses are some of the scarriest monsters out there, so you'll want to be particularly warry of those during battles, but you'll eat crab for dinner if any giant crab gets in contact with phoenix guards. I hope you like crab meat, as you'll have some at every meal for a while.

because i'm a noob and thought vampire coast wouldn't bring monsters lol. thanks for the tips

[mithrin]

Originally posted by Inardesco:

Swordmasters are anti-infantry. You want Phoenix Guard against large units.

Those units are also very easy targets for Sisters of Avelorn that should melt them easily.

Arty is easily countered with bolt throwers.

thanks! as I said in another comment I didn't think Vampire Coast was so monster focused lol

[mithrin]

Originally posted by Wyvern:

swordmasters are a horrible choice vs vamp coast and completely unnecessary.

go cheap on the frontline, spearmen will do perfectly fine, a unit or two of white lions can be thrown in to help out vs depth guard, but personally I usually dont even bother with that.

Teclis+2xNobles, or Allarielle+2xNobles gives you a good roving goon and antilarge squad.

Mass archers and cheap cav for the rest of it, maybe with a unit or two of sisters of averlorn. Make it hard for your opponent to get a good engage on you. You can also run bolt throwers, though personalyl im not as much of a fan of these(since im an aggressive player and dont like sitting defending arty)

thanks!