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I don't know much else about it though.
The artwork and design on the miniatures is like best ever maybe.
The Mer Elves look awesome though. I'd love to have them in Total War battling the Vampire Pirates.
Man, what an obnoxious amount of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on Arch's part.
Out of the top of my head:
1)women in the old world had the same chance of being lawyers as men since time inmemorial as the cult of Verenna, *Goddess* of Law put no such restrictions, and that's the major source of lawyers in that neck of the woods.
2) The bit of "Ulric is unlikely to take on a female follower, especially a cosmopolitan woman, so unless maybe they were some crazy wolf woman.....But that's just not likely." almost makes me convinced that he has no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ clue what he's talking about. While the Cult of Ulric IS male dominated, that's due to enforced celibacy stuff imposed on them by the Grafs of Middenhiem and about a thousand years winnowing away most of the female Priestesses. The Cult of Ulric still has a small minority of very vocal female followers, including an all female Temple in Nordland. Oh, and the current head Priestess of that Temple is a woman from Altdorf, read, the most cosmopolitan city in the empire.
3) On dwarf culture... eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh. No. That's not how the clans work. The kind of procedure he's describing would go through the *clan mother*, who's the one person that has the final say in economic and profesional matters. What he's describing is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
4)Fell cargo and multiple other novels have described southlanders living in the empire. next.
5) The noble has a skin complexion not too uncommon in the southern provinces. At this point I'm just skimming as his shrill and pompous voice is getting too grating.
I mean, you really should avoid those people as *even the rule itself labelled the owner a cheater* if he got a 13. Why the ♥♥♥♥ should you want to play a cheater? That's angle 1.
Angle 2 being that those rules were jokes.Where those good jokes? Eh, fine for a chuckle once in a blue moon, not something to hammer every time. Should they be taken seriously and actual gospel? Haha. No. Did they have place? Not really, it was hamfisted and a clear bit of corporate meddling wanting to make a light tone.
But anyone using that kind of rules in *anything* resembling a serious matter should be given a wide berth and kept away ones' Konrad.
Now, try to make a bit of sense. Because the last paragraph is utterly disjointed, bears no meaningful resemblance to the Guilds' background and contains the piece of nonsense of 'bubbles of reality', which... is not how the realms work?
I was just about to post something along the same lines when I read this. AoS is like GoT s8. Pure laziness in the storytelling, so many things that made zero sense, so many characters completely killed off in snuff porn manner or given endings that made you want to punch a cat. And all because GW was mad that people resorted to buying minis from other companies because theirs had grown super expensive for less product, and had seen no real upgrades or changes in years! That and they were pushing out old fans trying desperately to cater to new fans in hobby shops, missing the point that old fans are what encourage people to become new fans.
AoS is just a culmination of sadness, kind of like what WoW has become. You always have those fans who will buy anything and love everything, but the objective fans know AoS is a sad pale comparison to Warhammer Fantasy.
It's hard to explain without causing stir, controversy and derailing the thread completely as people tend to be very sensitive on such matters.
Skimming through the core book and looking at the portrayal of each profession/job that your hero can take is enough to understand that something is wrong.
Now, as I said these are sensitive matters and it is easy to be called names. Let me clarify that I don't have any ANY issue with all races, colours, sexual orientations etc etc.
That said, depicting the profession of an Imperial Swordsman as a Chinese man is just not right. Look, it can certainly happen. Someone from Cathay or Nippon may happen to join the Reikland army. But it is not the norm. Especially, when the book supposedly depicts what a generic Imperial Swordsman would look like.
As it would not be the norm to see a Caucasian man as a soldier of Nippon. Again it would not feel right.
I hope you get the point. And I will stop right here before things turn ugly.
gork and mork are split again because sigmar can't give them proper order to them because ork, all gork and mork want is combat and blood
the renaming of dwarf i pay no mind because i not play them on TT but the fyreslayer are seriously strong and hit hard but they are slow
if you try to change all the mind from all the people here well good luck because most of them just follow the hate train and don't give a ♥♥♥♥.
or they are to much stick in the past and not want to do research that will take 15 minute to know what happen actually in AoS.
just a quick recent lore, Nagash try to assemble all the soul to he realm shyish to be a truly a bad guy and construct a new black pyramid to be able to do that and have a good vengeance on archaon
I like the Sigmarines. My world is a better place with Sigmarines in them. Now maybe they could have been added to the existing world or maybe they could have been a risky experiment by Karl Franz or I dont know... but the Stormclast Eternals are just plain cool.
So it's likely that I will write stuff that was written by twenty people before me, sorry for that as well...
But hey you asked for it, so here are my 3 main reasons why I hate AoS:
3. It is not a Fantasy setting, it's a weird Steampunk/Fantasy-mush. I can't tell by half of the miniatures if they are from 40k or AoS. It lacks therefore in its own unique style/Identity.
2. The Stormcast Eternals! They alone would be reason enough for me to never touch this ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game.
Because of the way they were created and what they represent.
GW saw that Fantasy would not great as much income as 40k and they thought that introducing space marines into fantasy would change that because SMs is the most hyped thing in 40k. (I personally think that they get way too much attention there as well. Super humans are so boring, couldn't you rather identify with an imperial soldier desperately fighting against horrible monsters as with a fearless superkiller?)
So their introduction was not a design choice. They didn't had a great idea for a race or army and wanted them in the game to make it richer in story and depth.
They thought: we need space marines in fantasy to make more money, how can we get them in there? It was forced into the setting and that's why their backstory sucks so bad and feels out of place. A decision made out of greed because Fantasy may not have been the money making machine that 40k was but it was still one of the most popular miniature games in the world.
1. And this one is directly connected to my second: They killed fantasy for AoS! They murdered this beautiful world with its rich backstory and most of my favorite characters for the dumbass AoS portal worlds nonsense. Yea many of the new miniatures look AMAZING but they would have looked amzing in Fantasy as well. The new Setting is mediocre at best, the story poorly thought through.
And like i said in point 2. The whole charm of Fantasy was: That normal humans were surrounded by terrible monsters from all sides (Greenskins, Chaos and undead, all capable of wiping the humans from the face of the earth) and they had to fight bravely and skillfully to secure their place in the world.
And the saddest thing is that they didn't had to kill fantasy. They could have just started something new without destroying the world in the end times, leaving Fantasy just vacant so fans could invent and live their own stories.
There are so many factions we will never see as armys because of that. So many open storys and unanswerd questions, mysterys that hinted so much greater things... (that turned out to be nothing thx to the end times) but no they had to burn it to the ground. What a hugh and sad waste...
So yeah that's why I hate AoS! Because it's a downgrade of the real thing. Because it's a greedy half baked mess. And because I will never be content with something that's just not as good!
But hey that's just my opinion so... have fun!
Ps. 40k marines can also arrived as a bolt of lightning when they teleport... so pretty much the same ♥♥♥♥.
You are basically right. Let's see... It was pretty easy to implement a new "open world" into the setting without compomizing the old one. End Time could have gone like this:
- Sigmar gets revived, kicks ass and together with the incarnates defeats the chaos invasion.
- During the final battle the different magic paths get unbound and a violent magic storm ravages the world with catastrophic destruction and leaves random portals to other worlds in the process. Though the portals of Chaos were sealed for a time, new ones to a unknown worlds open up.
- Once the final battle settles, Sigmar defeats Nagash and forces him to flee through one of such portals. Sigmar follows him and by doing so arrives basically in the same place he got in AoS, meaning gets his own world, starts to foge Stormcasts etc.
Indeed, there was absolutely no reason to destroy the Old World. Instead, it could have become one of the worlds of Age of Sigmar and the story could have been told from its perspective. In such a situation, incursions from different worlds would have made sense and it would have been easy to introduce new armies and concepts to the lore while still retaining the old. But the sad thing is, they wanted to destroy it. End Times showed clearly, what they intention with the old game system was: destruction. They wanted to kill it and they did it and they forced it with all their power.
To be honest, I wanted a specific example and not a far fetched analogy.
somewhat nice, if unimaginative, troll
7.5/10
But as many people have made clear so far, burning the old world behind them was a awful idea, the end times pretty much derailed any characters that were established and had been part of the world for a long time (whether they were actually liked or not).
Malekith is forgiven by everyone, Thorgrim dies because he forgot to shut a door, Mannfred seemingly acts as a walking plot device for GW to remove anything that might seem useful to people who didnt want the world to end. Other plot devices get brought up and discarded with regularity and the whole thing becomes a lesson that chaos was always going to win and therefore everything that happened before was completely irrelevant anyway.
In moving to that Age of Sigmar, two entire well liked factions are removed, for absolutely zero good reason, acting as a giant F you to a decent chunk of the fanbase, plenty of other well liked characters are also removed, such as Vlad, Malus, Kholek and Gelt.
Iin return we get fantasy versions of the guys that 40k has revolved around, for about 30 years.
Age of Sigmar isnt even that bad a game, hell, a decent part of me hopes they bend the rules and stick the Deepkin in TWH2. Plenty of people just get into warhammer, and Age of Sigmar is all they see.
To put it bluntly, they dumped a tried and tested game in the laziest way possible to sell a inferior product. Age of Sigmar might be alright, but Fantasy was better. And that's what people are gonna concentrate on. Imagine they released Mass Effect Andromeda but in doing so prevented anyone from playing the original Mass Effect Trilogy. Thats kinda what happened here.