What is the best army for each faction in Mortal Empire for TWW2?

[antique_nova]

So, I've only just come back to the game after what? 5 years, due to having a ♥♥♥♥ PC, but now I had a brand new Razer Blade 17 pro with a RT 2070 Max-Q Design graphics card! :D

I've practically conquered about 1/4 of the map in my first playthrough as the Skaven with Ikit ( The Border Princes, Bretonnia and Empire regions are almost all mine.) It'll take a while to conquer the rest of the map, but I'm not worried about it at all as I have good economy and 7 tier 1 armies roaming about.

I did do a dwarf campaign and an empire one in the first game and basically beat the map with them. I did VC and Bretonnia as well, but they were tough, not sure if I ever beat the game with them, but that was years ago.

I'd like to play all the other factions. But before I do, I want to what are the best armies to get in start, mid and late game? If you could write something like:

[Race]
New Game
2x [Unit]
3x [Unit]
etc

Mid Game
2x [Unit]
3x [Unit]
etc

Late Game
2x [Unit]
3x [Unit]
etc

Right now, my tier 1 armies are:

1x Lord (I like the warlock master the most)
1x Warlock Engineer
3x Stormvermin + Shields + Swords
3x Stormvermin + Halberds
4x Warlock Jezzails
1x Warpfire Thrower
4x Doomwheel
3x Plague Claw Catapults

Sometimes, I will take out a warpfire thrower for 1 plaguepriest, so that I can charge an enemy gate with 5 doomwheels and the plaguepriest, then put down the glowing rocks for -44 magic resistance and then spam my spells at once into that null zone and watch 1000 enemy soldiers melt in a matter of seconds and then finish of the enemy with those 5 units. And my guys barely lose any health too! It's funny to watch and it makes sieges fun and fast! :P

[Elitewrecker PT]

But, the game is only 3.5 years old, even counting from WH1 and not just WH2.

[Sn3z]

Son, can I have a minute to talk to you about the tiers and what they can do for you?

[Sn3z]

[HE]

T1-T3

1x [Lord]
2x [spearmen]
2x [LSG]
3x [White Lions]
3x [Archers light amour]
4-5x [Eagles]
2x [SilverHelms]
1x [Eagle claw]
1-2x [Agents]

Late game I just swap out MOST of unit's for higher tier counterparts, fairly straight forward.

[Kaaz]

There isnt a best army, it depends who your playing as (which lord in a faction), who your fighting, what your prefered playstyle is. Etc etc

[antique_nova]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

But, the game is only 3.5 years old, even counting from WH1 and not just WH2.

Really? Well whatever it was, it was a LOOOOOOOOOOONG time ago and I had a laptop with a really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ graphics card. So, it's like karma now, that I have one of the best gaming laptops in the world! :D

[Inardesco]

Originally posted by antique_nova:

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

But, the game is only 3.5 years old, even counting from WH1 and not just WH2.

Really? Well whatever it was, it was a LOOOOOOOOOOONG time ago and I had a laptop with a really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ graphics card. So, it's like karma now, that I have one of the best gaming laptops in the world! :D

Except that laptops are crap and always surpassed by desktops

[drazan]

oh lawrdd djesus

this will 100% end in another "follow this tier system i point out for you" threads

[Sins]

To make the best army, you take the units that are good in the amount that makes them work best while still leaving room for other good units that synergize with the good units you're bringing.

There's no rule or system that will consistently produce the best army, regardless of how you define "best", and it'll vary far too much depending on what specific faction you're playing anyway.

[Agemouk]

Best for Khalida?

Khalida (with True Blessing of Asaph + Rank 3 Arrows of Asaph + Blessing of the Asp + Casket Ammunition Tech + Damage Casket Tech)
2 x Liche Priest of Nehekhara (fully specced into Ptra's Incantation of Righteous Smiting)
5 x at Rank 7+ Casket of Souls
12 x Whatever you think will hold a strong line. You may want to consider a few specific blocking units for flyers. But really all they need to do is hold. Consider a Tomb Prince with a Halbard and Tomb Strike as well for any specific anti-large targets.

Set out army at furthest distance possible from opponent
Array Casket of Souls in a circle around Khalida's True Blessing of Asaph buff.
Array holding forces in blocking positions.
Start dropping Ptra's Incantation of Righteous Smiting on Caskets.


It'd never work against human players but there is very, very little that the AI will throw at you that'll walk through that firestorm and set-up. It'll also butcher garrisons in sieges.

[pokerhabs]

What suited me best was :

( This is a mid to late game build but considering how fast VCoast can upgrade... Anyway, first turns just fill with what you can recruit/afford )

-Cylostra ( Promethean mount, that ward save banner from techs, every ward save you can get, Khaine is also great )
-3 mourngul heros ( All named Eddy because Iron Maiden )
-Some syrens, depth guards and depth guards with polarms, about 2 of each. ( Just in case you have a wall to climb )
-Queen Bess
-Fill with tons of necrofex clossossi

Gameplay is like that :

-Only send Cylostra into the crowd and Vangheist Revenge whenever you can.
-Mourngull heros are used to spawn behind the enemy, it is possible in almost all treasure island maps. In siege, use the Eddies to destroy another gates and sneak them into enemy the enemy castle.
- Necrofexes and Bess lined up and spamming fire at will
-Infantry playing cards untill some threat appears.

I suggest you only fight these treasure islands at first ( Fast XP, nice gear, nice cash ) and do mostly siege battles. Bess and Collossi will clear them walls and send only Cylostra to have a nice blob around her. Best I got was 890 kills only with Cylostra.

[Maximum997]

High elves - full sisters eagle claws with few nobles
Dark elves - full shades
Wood elves - full way watchers
Vampire coast - full necrofex colossus
Empire - full steam tanks
Lisard man - full bastiladons with ballistas
Tomb kings - full construcs
VC - full heroes
Scaven + full ratlings + plague claw
Norsca - full mamonth
Greenskins - full spiders

[antique_nova]

Originally posted by Inardesco:

Originally posted by antique_nova:

Really? Well whatever it was, it was a LOOOOOOOOOOONG time ago and I had a laptop with a really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ graphics card. So, it's like karma now, that I have one of the best gaming laptops in the world! :D

Except that laptops are crap and always surpassed by desktops

Says the person who literally knows nothing about laptops or desktops and can't even stay on topic. There are literally dozens of laptops better than desktops for gaming and while the very best laptop can't beat the very best desktop, that point is mute, because they're used very different to send your spam elsewhere.

[luci-27master]

Wood elfs
Elf focus(1)

Glade lord on dragon or eagle x1

Life Mage 1x

4x ethernal guards

4xbows( Tier 1-3)

3 eagle riders(to harres their lines, protect my bows from cavaraly, suicide the enemy artillery or protect my flying lord from other flying lords)

4x wild riders(good for flanking, harassing their bows or protecting my flanks)

2xtree man

1x sisters of thorn for the magic




Elf focus (2)

Glade lord on food or horse(need the wardancers banner and skills for them )

Mage( lore of shadow since we need to end the battle as quickly as possible since wardancers aren't really famous for holding the line, so we are going to need to lower their leadership and very importantly their armor so that the wardancers can mow through them )

4x war dancers with spears for holding the line

4x war dancers with dual swords to flank around the enemy and cut through their lines as quickly as possible


4x waywatchers

2xwild riders riders (to hold the enemy cavaraly from our infantry)
2x sisters of thorn to buff up the wild riders with more endurance and get some poison damage on the enemy cavaraly so that it takes longer for them to kill the wild riders

2x dragons(they are the catalysts for this tactic, while the lines are about to clash they will try to help here and there, use some breath, the usual. And now after the wardancers with dual weapons have started to flank and inflicted a bit damage to the enemy infantry, (thanks to the lowering of the armor debuff from your mage) , can the dragons now crash into their main battle line causing fear to nearby enemies and in combination with the lowering of the leadership with the magic, will cause the main line to terror route for a few second. But since the) your war dancers are Damm fast + the lowering from the poison of the dragons and sisters of thorn which slows them, will the enemy not be able to escape and come back later again and will be instead be slaughtered in seconds by the war dancers. At this point will their cavaraly probably already have killed your wild hunters, but who cares cause you can just use your war dancers with spears with the help of the waywatchers to kill their cavaraly and use the eagles+dual war dancers to annihilate their archers

[Tricks]

WoC (Archaon):

Early Game
Full chaos warriors except starting chosen

Rest of the Game
Full chosen except a couple hell cannons


WoC (Kholek):

Early Game
Full chaos warriors except starting dragon ogres

Rest of the Game
Full dragon ogres


Beastmen:

Early Game
However many trash units you can afford

Rest of the Game
Full minotaurs

[antique_nova]

Originally posted by Tricks:

WoC (Archaon):

Early Game
Full chaos warriors except starting chosen

Rest of the Game
Full chosen except a couple hell cannons


WoC (Kholek):

Early Game
Full chaos warriors except starting dragon ogres

Rest of the Game
Full dragon ogres


Beastmen:

Early Game
However many trash units you can afford

Rest of the Game
Full minotaurs

I just faced Chaos for the first time as Skaven and jesus christ, Archeon absolutely battered two doomwheels by himself and their hell cannons hit like a bloody nuke! Hot damn that hurt!