Total War: WARHAMMER II

Total War: WARHAMMER II

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ForrestFox Nov 24, 2017 @ 6:33am
What does "Damage Dealer" mean?
Could someone explain to me what exactly the ability "Damage Dealer" means in this game?
Like my Crypt Ghouls, they are weak against armour, have poison attacks and damage dealer.

1: Exactly what makes the crypt ghouls damage dealers? Do they have higher "Melee Attacks" than the rest of my army, is that why they are damage dealers? or do the ability "Damage Dealer" actually make their attacks more deadly?
Or are they seen as a "damage dealer" just because they have "poisoned attacks"?

2: How against armoured targets? They are weak against armour, but does that counter their damage dealer or does the "damage dealer" ability still kick in somehow?
For example: Are they weaker than skeletons against an armored target, or do two abilities "weak against armour" and "damage dealer" take each other out so they come in par with a skeleton unit against an armoured target?

The game is highly lacking information of all abilities, not explaining how they work. Right now they just give out wordings, and then you have to accept it for what it says, but you have no idéa how the mechanics works behind it all.
Tried searching on google for damage dealer, but I'm only finding what is damage dealers and that weaker units is supposed to lock enemies in combat so your damage dealers can attack in the back, but no information how the mechanics of damage dealers actually work. Like, what makes damage dealers more effective in the back of an enemy than a non-damage dealing unit? o_O

Would preciate some information, or a guiding hand to where to find these answers :)
Thank you :D
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Kayeka Nov 24, 2017 @ 6:44am 
Most of the "pros and cons" shown in the little info box are purely to summerise a unit's role for newer players. With some exceptions, you should be able to find whatever it is they are describing in the actual stats or abilities.

Ghouls have decent weapon damage and melee attack, which allows them to deal a lot of damage quickly. Hence, they are marked as "damage dealers". As you've already figured out, they are pretty bad against properly armoured units, though their poison attacks can still allow them to help out in such a fight.
Sultschiem Nov 24, 2017 @ 6:51am 
These tags are supposed to help you understand the role of that particular unit.

A "Damage Dealer" unit either has a good Melee Attack Rating or has a good Weapon Damage OR has a really fast attack speed.

"Weak against armor" means that their damage TYPE is almost exclusively normal and not armor piercing.

Normal weapon damage gets reduced by armor while armor PIERCING damage ignores armor completely.

Meaning if you have 100 damage and 50 of those are armorpiercing, the 50 normal damage get reduced by armor, the 50 not.

So if armor would reduce normal damage by 50% it means the normal damage is only 25 but your armorpiercing is still 50.

There is also stuff like magical, physical and missile resistance as well as "ward safe", which is a resistance against everything. (Wardsafe of 20 = 20% of all damage is reduced even if armorpiercing)




In general, if you use Crypt Ghouls against low or unarmored units ... like for example Zombies, Skeletons Empire Infantry etc. they will do quite well in dealing damage.
ForrestFox Nov 24, 2017 @ 7:02am 
Aight, thanks.
Hannibal Barca Nov 24, 2017 @ 10:53am 
they deal more damage
gachi is manly Nov 24, 2017 @ 11:10am 
They tend to favor attack/damage over defense/health. They'll kill units quickly but also die quickly when put up against stuff they're weak against.
Decomposed Nov 24, 2017 @ 11:20am 
Yeah, these bullet points are just for info. Like a short summary of this unit's pros and cons.
Red Bat Nov 24, 2017 @ 12:51pm 
Those bullet points also generally refer to their role in comparison to similar quality units. There are some units with higher armor piercing damage than units listed as armor piercing, simply because it's expected for lategame units to have high armor piercing.
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Date Posted: Nov 24, 2017 @ 6:33am
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