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Who's the strongest combat Lord in campaign?
Not on multi-player, but in campaign - assuming you have reached the max level 40? Looking at the screenshot below - and reading his Khaine line - Tyrion seems the man?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1153093052
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lampros:
Not on multi-player, but in campaign - assuming you have reached the max level 40? Looking at the screenshot below - and reading his Khaine line - Tyrion seems the man?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1153093052
Mannfred can be good, have had him 2 hit weaker lords with his dragon.
Kaaz 2. Dez. 2018 um 18:20 
archeon with the buffs from the last patch
Don't really care about stats. My tops are:

Handmaiden (Yup, 1v1 Tyrion with the right build.)
Count Noct.

Handmaiden with the 'Incin' trait is unbeatable. 70% weapon damage and the other bonuses. She has the potential to outdps a hero with the sword of khaine. Just build her right, wait for the right 'bonuses' with your 40 influence and you have a killing machine.

Noct? 60-60 defense and attack, high armour, good staying power. Gets to be a mobile cannon piece later in the game, and access to lore of vampires.

Sure, unlike manlymanfred he lacks the death-tree. But that only means he can pump extra points into being a better melee-lord.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Red Bat Media:
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In multiplayer and single player it looks like Luthor Harkon is now one of the biggest contenders. Comparable stats to one of the better melee lords, with a ranged attack he can fire while moving.
And lore of the deeps in SP. Uniquely he doesn't pay any skill points for a full deck of spells. He's in my top five now with Kholek, Archaon, Malekith, Durthu.

See my guide to solo lords for maxxed stats etc.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1556766573



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That incendiary skill is pretty awesome, synth. Hadn't noticed that. Yikes.

With the Aye aye patch, Mannfred is sailing up as a more significant contender again, but yeah - in singleplayer, if you play a melee focused lord, it's probably going to be the best at it. :)

I did play a campaign with Kholek recently, and while he's growing a bit old in the power creep game, his strong defence and mass combined with regeneration helps. (Just hunt down Isabella ASAP). He's pretty beastly.

Luthor Harkon is pretty good, though. His terrorgheist mount can't hold a candle to the zombie dragon, but having a ranged attack while flying is allways good for a laugh. :)
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Synthetic:
Don't really care about stats. My tops are:

Handmaiden (Yup, 1v1 Tyrion with the right build.)
Count Noct.

Handmaiden with the 'Incin' trait is unbeatable. 70% weapon damage and the other bonuses. She has the potential to outdps a hero with the sword of khaine. Just build her right, wait for the right 'bonuses' with your 40 influence and you have a killing machine.

Noct? 60-60 defense and attack, high armour, good staying power. Gets to be a mobile cannon piece later in the game, and access to lore of vampires.

Sure, unlike manlymanfred he lacks the death-tree. But that only means he can pump extra points into being a better melee-lord.

Ayye the Handmaidens with Incendiary trait can totally become monsters. Especially if you consider that many 40 influence hero traits give army wide bonuses, if you start putting an escort of 470 rep heroes to a lord including incendiary Handmaidens and go down the yellow lines, the result will definitely become hilarious (for you, not for the AI~). Who even need the sword of khaine with that kind of abilities for endgame? ~
Plus it's far more fun to add up small things like that than just going for braindead Sword of khaine use~

How would you describe Dwarf Lords in comparisons, and rate them to each other campaign wise? I was planning on starting the next campaign with one of those, but I can't decide.
Tyrion for sure.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von viryu9:
How would you describe Dwarf Lords in comparisons, and rate them to each other campaign wise? I was planning on starting the next campaign with one of those, but I can't decide.

Thorgrim is pretty good. His throne gives him a lot of extra mass, so he's not as easy to push around. As most dwarves, he's pretty tough and fighty. He's not the best, but he's going to be pretty badass in a campaign once he gets going. He's a bit unique in that he can get unique quest items for EVERY ITEM SLOT HE HAS. Just make sure to kill isabella, because he can't get regeneration any other way (with the uniques).
Emjay 3. Dez. 2018 um 9:38 
Vlad ftw he's a beast.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Lampros:
Not on multi-player, but in campaign - assuming you have reached the max level 40? Looking at the screenshot below - and reading his Khaine line - Tyrion seems the man?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1153093052
I dunno, as some lords have anti-large and with that alone could dumpster Tyrion. Aranessa destroys him. She nets him, he loses melee defense an armor, an her anti large is nuts, so she just destroys him.
I think if you want a destroyer of worlds that is both decent in most duels (not all) and have an impact via kills (without being a caster of ANY kind, sorry Archaon) Then I think these would be my top 5.

1) Luthor Harkon. Can shut down mages, can win any duel with hornswaggle and his natural tankiness. Aerial duels he can dominate as well with his terrorgheist. Yes, later in campaign you can put his mind back together and he gets lore of the deeps spells. But he never has a line for them to go up. So, I wouldn't call him a caster. It's more like he gets bound lore of deeps spells.
2) Orion. Dude doesn't break. Strong range, strong melee, has a waaagh for the wood elves, and some nice aoe abilities that act just like spells. A real powerhouse.
3) Tyrion. Reason why he isn't above the other two is simple. He is a duelist primarily, with only sunfang as his bound ability-like spell. That and JUST being a horse makes him not as versatile as the other two. Yes, Orion is on foot but he can go ranged (large range) or melee. So can Harkon, plus fly.
4) Kholek. The dude is a beast as long as he isn't dragged down by a ton of anti-large. Has the mass to just run wherever he wants. That said, he isn't as good at sniping lords as the first 3, and much easier to kill with focus fire.
5) Lokhir Fellheart. On foot the guy is almost unkillable. He loses a lot of tankiness on his mount, but is still pretty decent. He can anchor a line forever, and once he does have his dragon, he can be a nuisance in campaign.

Honorable mentions go to: Alith Anar (everyone thinks of him as a ranged lord only, but put him in melee lol. He has really good stats and can tank a LOT of damage. Also, him with a mage of high magic and soul quench can one shot most high value targets. Literally can one shot queen bess. Moon bow + Overcast Soul Quench, thing is dead) Grimgor in campaign isn't bad, can really hurt, but is slow. Wulfric really good with hunter of champions, but the defensive stats aren't there. I feel like he gets dragged down by cheap fire. Throgg can be good, Kroq'gar.
Instead of listing them all, I will just say that the weakest in my opinion are : Skarsnik, Khazrak, Tretch, Sigvald, and Alberic


I think the strongest lords in campaign regardless of type are (in no particular order) - Count Noctilus, Cylostra, Luthor Harkon, Teclis (if you can get past his starting position woes), and Lord Skrolk.

Generic lords. Wood Elf, female version (whichever has the net), Runelord, Blood Dragon Vamp lord, Slann Mage Priest, and most High Elf lords as if you have the influence, you can get some with crazy stats.

This is all opinion mind you. One that comes from over a 1000hrs of campaign. I do think every Vampire Coast legendary lord MINUS aranessa are extremely powerful in campaign. Araness does fine, but she really only shines against factions heavy on cav or monsters. Whereas the rest can shine everywhere against anyone.
In a duel, probably Tyrion, but overall Durthu owns pretty much everything. A complete and utterly unstopable juggernaut.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von ChaosKhan:
In a duel, probably Tyrion, but overall Durthu owns pretty much everything. A complete and utterly unstopable juggernaut.
In correct, Durthu is super easy to destroy. Vampire coast triple Necrofex lol. He goes down FAST. In fact, I can name more than a few lords that can duel Durthu. Harkon on his terrorgheist would take him to pound town
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von ChaosKhan:
In a duel, probably Tyrion, but overall Durthu owns pretty much everything. A complete and utterly unstopable juggernaut.
In correct, Durthu is super easy to destroy. Vampire coast triple Necrofex lol. He goes down FAST. In fact, I can name more than a few lords that can duel Durthu. Harkon on his terrorgheist would take him to pound town
Harkon, Blood Dragon vamp lord, Aranessa, Noctilus on foot, Karl Franz, Throgg, Archaon, I mean...I can go on. Durthu not anywhere near unstoppable.
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