Total War: WARHAMMER II

Total War: WARHAMMER II

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Ashantai Oct 25, 2017 @ 6:40pm
Fire or Ice Phoenix?
For my High Elves I'm wondering which is more effective? The Ice Phoenix is better at combat and has a constant debuff, but the fire one has the bomb attack and can resurrect.

Which one do people find more useful?
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Neither get Star Dragon and never look back.

Although I would pick Ice for the slow debuff (IIRC)
DocterSnap126 Oct 25, 2017 @ 6:47pm 
Phoenixs' are kindy weak compared to dragons, but if you were to choose any I would do Ice Phoenix. You don't need to watch over the Ice Phoenix that much compared to the Fire Phoenix which is pretty weak, only thing going for the Fire Phoenix is its blast (bombs).
Last edited by DocterSnap126; Oct 25, 2017 @ 6:47pm
Magic_Codfish Oct 25, 2017 @ 6:48pm 
fire pheonix is kinda lame, i use them pretty much just for killing artilery. with the speed and thier bombs they are pretty good at that.

for combat? ice pheonix all the way... the debuff is great.
Ashantai Oct 25, 2017 @ 7:25pm 
OK great, thanks for your help.
eldiabs Oct 25, 2017 @ 8:28pm 
Send Tyrion in front of your lines against a couple of stacks of enemy troops, then send the flamespyre phoenix for a couple of bombing runs. Or line them up to run down the line of your frontline when you get a massed melee attack against you. Strafe the enemy with every bomb you have in a run or two. You'll absolutely decimate the enemy if you do it right. The flamespyre is a great unit when used correctly. The frostspyre gives some bonuses if you drop it right into the middle of the fight, especially if the winds of magic are strong in the battle zone.
Sai Kyouji Oct 25, 2017 @ 9:09pm 
Ice Phoenix has more armour than even Star Dragon, is faster and is also a smaller target. It's more suitable to drop onto melee than Dragons.
Not sure what Fire Phoenix is for with that 30 armour. And don't count on that Rebirth, it has a chance to fail and immediately kill the unit.
Last edited by Sai Kyouji; Oct 25, 2017 @ 9:10pm
Tiaga Mar 19, 2022 @ 10:42am 
Any update to this? It's been awhile. Are frost phoenix any good?
Hmm I forgot about these. I might actually try High Elves
Aleera Mar 19, 2022 @ 12:48pm 
Originally posted by Tiaga:
Any update to this? It's been awhile. Are frost phoenix any good?

They're better then Eagles. That's it. Also, why did you necro'd this 5 year old thread?
Originally posted by Tiaga:
Any update to this? It's been awhile. Are frost phoenix any good?

living or should I say unliving to your profile picture nice necromancy, gonna send some witch hunter your way now, best regard
Last edited by Arthur two sheds Jackson; Mar 19, 2022 @ 1:18pm
Tiaga Mar 19, 2022 @ 1:41pm 
Originally posted by Rianne:
Originally posted by Tiaga:
Any update to this? It's been awhile. Are frost phoenix any good?

They're better then Eagles. That's it. Also, why did you necro'd this 5 year old thread?

(shrug) I like rasing things back from the dead :P
Last edited by Tiaga; Mar 19, 2022 @ 1:42pm
Багряный Mar 19, 2022 @ 1:49pm 
The fiery phoenix is better than the ice phoenix if you take 1-3 pieces. But from icy phoenixes you can assemble a full army

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2028886859
Last edited by Багряный; Mar 19, 2022 @ 1:50pm
eRe4s3r Mar 19, 2022 @ 1:51pm 
Then you should also get a proper answer: Neither - Get Arcane Phoenix because rainbow pidgeon is the meta and rainbow pidgeon will not betray you like the others will.
Tiaga Mar 19, 2022 @ 2:17pm 
Originally posted by eRe4s3r:
Then you should also get a proper answer: Neither - Get Arcane Phoenix because rainbow pidgeon is the meta and rainbow pidgeon will not betray you like the others will.

Great answer, but unless I get the DLC I only get then from confederation.
Lost Latios Mar 19, 2022 @ 8:03pm 
Originally posted by Magic_Codfish:
fire pheonix is kinda lame, i use them pretty much just for killing artilery. with the speed and thier bombs they are pretty good at that.

for combat? ice pheonix all the way... the debuff is great.
Have you tried carpet bombing a wall with them? I love them for that ability alone. It's a bit tricky since you can't exactly see where you order them on a wall, but all you need to do is find a nice straight section with a bunch of squishy archers and it'll damage/disrupt them a ton.

Just fly him by and click every so often and soon enough you've bombed an entire wall and caused some nice damage while also denying them free volleys against your units.
Last edited by Lost Latios; Mar 19, 2022 @ 8:04pm
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