High Elves or Lizardmen? Which race will have better magic/mages?

[Valegorn]

Now I know the lore, the Slann are way more powerful than any High Elf Arch Mage from any era, but who will have the more powerful magic? Yes Lizardmen are very powerful, but they are limited to which schools they can take. High Elves can take all magic plus their own race specific magic. So I'm betting the Lizardmen will have access to the most powerful school of magic, but they won’t be very versatile or flexible, while High Elves will have the versatility.

Also there are a lot of mage character in the High Elf roster, even if some of them are duel classed as fighters too. There are only Slann and skink priests for lizardmen.

Honestly I just hope Teclis (assuming TW is going to have him as one of the characters) is a magical beast, more so then what we have now. His spells may be typical but his command of the winds of magic combined with his wargear, he should have quite the reserve of magical energy with a very high starting spell power pool.

Really at this point I'm just wish listing, but I wanted to know who you think might be top dog when it comes to magic in WTW2?

[Carson]

Lizardmen have the best mages in the world the Slann which got their magic directly from the old ones

[Valegorn]

true, but in the game they only had access to a few of the schools of magic. The high elves has access to practically all of them (minus race specific ones).

Do you think the slann mages will bring more magical reserves, or will they just have amazing spells? Or both?

Personally I think the High Elves are going to have mages with great control of the winds of magic, but the Slann will have the UBER teeth knocking in spells and normal control of the winds of magic.

[HobbyCathartic]

The Slann will have the best particle effects!

[Shandor]

Slann can take all Basic Magic schools and the High Magic Lore also in the Tabletop like all Elven Factions. But Slanns can take a Skill that gives them every level 1 spell from all Schools. But this will be very unlikely in Total war. The skilltree is just to small to support 9 Magic Lores.

The funny thing is that the best mage is a Tombking. Arkhan the black is the only level 5 mage in Warhammer.

[A6M Zero]

To keep to lore the Slann should be more powerful; however, elves seem to actually deploy magic more frequently (in terms of numbers of mages/units). Therefore, I would assume Slann are highly powerful mages with some specific powerups (i.e. reduced cooldowns, extra reserves and the like) while the elves will have magical units like the WEs' Sisters of Thorn.

As for Teclis, isn't he the HE mage represented in the trailer, what with the scroll/helmet/staff?

[Shandor]

Originally posted by A6M Zero:

To keep to lore the Slann should be more powerful; however, elves seem to actually deploy magic more frequently (in terms of numbers of mages/units). Therefore, I would assume Slann are highly powerful mages with some specific powerups (i.e. reduced cooldowns, extra reserves and the like) while the elves will have magical units like the WEs' Sisters of Thorn.

As for Teclis, isn't he the HE mage represented in the trailer, what with the scroll/helmet/staff?

Only Woodelves and Darkelves have a Magical Unit. WE got the Sisters and DE have the Doomfire Warloks.

[HolyGrail]

Will they have different lores of magic than we saw in the old world? Where most lores of magic weren't exclusive to a single faction.

[Shandor]

Originally posted by DeathevokatioN:

Will they have different lores of magic than we saw in the old world? Where most lores of magic weren't exclusive to a single faction.

Well there are 6 basic Magic lores. Fire, Heaven, Beast, Shadow, Death, Metal, Light and Life.

But every Faction has one or more own Magic lores in addition to the basic 8.
Tombkings have Lore of Nehekhara. VC have lore of Vampires aso.

Lizardman share the Magic lore with the Highelves. Lore of High Magic. Since the Slann Teached the Highelves how to use Magic. (The Highelves teached the Humans how to use magic later)
Darkelves have Dark Magic and Woodelves got both. Since they have something from Dark and High elves. Thats why they are neutral.

I guess Woodelves will get a Magic upgreat once the HE And DE will be released because their Faction lore is totaly missing.

[A6M Zero]

Originally posted by Shandor:

Originally posted by A6M Zero:

To keep to lore the Slann should be more powerful; however, elves seem to actually deploy magic more frequently (in terms of numbers of mages/units). Therefore, I would assume Slann are highly powerful mages with some specific powerups (i.e. reduced cooldowns, extra reserves and the like) while the elves will have magical units like the WEs' Sisters of Thorn.

As for Teclis, isn't he the HE mage represented in the trailer, what with the scroll/helmet/staff?

Only Woodelves and Darkelves have a Magical Unit. WE got the Sisters and DE have the Doomfire Warloks.

Huh, I thought HE had a ranged magic unit. Still, I was thinking that they might try something a little more novel to try express the HE's magic focus, like a 2-4 man unit with some spell capacity; not exactly TT, but they might be able to pull it close enough.

[Doc]

Originally posted by A6M Zero:

Originally posted by Shandor:

Only Woodelves and Darkelves have a Magical Unit. WE got the Sisters and DE have the Doomfire Warloks.

Huh, I thought HE had a ranged magic unit. Still, I was thinking that they might try something a little more novel to try express the HE's magic focus, like a 2-4 man unit with some spell capacity; not exactly TT, but they might be able to pull it close enough.

I think the sisters of avelorn have magical bows or something like that.

As for the question asked by OP, I would assume that the Lizardmen have be best magic.

[Valegorn]

Oh, my lore knowladge is flawed then, I thought Lizardmen only had access to certain lores of magic. My brother played Lizardmen and I must have missed that part, my bad.

[HolyGrail]

Originally posted by Shandor:

Originally posted by DeathevokatioN:

Will they have different lores of magic than we saw in the old world? Where most lores of magic weren't exclusive to a single faction.

Well there are 6 basic Magic lores. Fire, Heaven, Beast, Shadow, Death, Metal, Light and Life.

But every Faction has one or more own Magic lores in addition to the basic 8.
Tombkings have Lore of Nehekhara. VC have lore of Vampires aso.

Lizardman share the Magic lore with the Highelves. Lore of High Magic. Since the Slann Teached the Highelves how to use Magic. (The Highelves teached the Humans how to use magic later)
Darkelves have Dark Magic and Woodelves got both. Since they have something from Dark and High elves. Thats why they are neutral.

I guess Woodelves will get a Magic upgreat once the HE And DE will be released because their Faction lore is totaly missing.

Ahh, thanks for the explaination! :)

[Uugly]

Missing life magic is really bad for Lizardmen. Life magic is one of the strongest supportive magic.

[Ruinae Retroque Rursus]

Originally posted by no1:

Missing life magic is really bad for Lizardmen. Life magic is one of the strongest supportive magic.

Who needs Life magic when you have half a stack of Bastilodons with Revification Crystals?

[Uugly]

Revification Crystals are a wasting for slot better units.