Are all the chapters equally unfair? Should I refund?

[Otomon]

So I bought this game cause review were really good and it looked awesome. Started the game... first 30 minutes I was loving it, game seemed amazing. Then I decided to start Lucys chapter... everything was going well until after the forest scene... then the game just became almost impossible... first all lights are completely gone so you do not get anywhere to heal sanity, I think candle is supposed to help restore it, but at this point Lucy is lurking around so my sanity just wont go down... and when it drops too low, its instant death it seems, any step I take Lucy will also pop up and insta kill me... I reloaded my save so many times, was ready to drop and refund. Then by some miracle I managed to get to where I needed to go and did all those sequences up until you are pushed out of a room and a new enemy starts spawning.... same ♥♥♥♥ as Lucy but instead of me having to go up... I need to go to basement, and hes even worse cause he seems to move even faster, apparently camera is supposed to help but it aint doing nothing for me...

So... are all the chapters unfair like this or do the mix things up? Should I drop this game? All "horror" elements kinda fizzled out when I kept having to look at loading screen and staring at the same monstrosity over and over...

[CID]

They mix things up. I found Lucy to be the hardest because of the lights. Doloris I found to be much easier. I had not trouble keeping my sanity up in that chapter. Some of the hall way runs on Rakan were tough, but not that bad.

[Otomon]

Originally posted by CIDphi:

They mix things up. I found Lucy to be the hardest because of the lights. Doloris I found to be much easier. I had not trouble keeping my sanity up in that chapter. Some of the hall way runs on Rakan were tough, but not that bad.

Great to know that not all chapters boil down to removing all the lights so it becomes almost impossible to advance if you are not prepared. Guess Ill try my best to get through the Lucy chapter.... but it did leave a sour taste, I am stressed to play it again not cause the game is scary... but because I know I will be staring at the Loading Screen for along time :(

[Lo Wang]

I played the game many times and most of the time I could hardly meet Lucy or her friend or Dolores. I met Rakan anyway because of the plot. I mean the mechanic of the game is designed this way: as you do everything according to the plot you are less likely to get attacked, When you play for the second time it will be easier.

[Otomon]

Originally posted by Lo Wang:

I played the game many times and most of the time I could hardly meet Lucy or her friend or Dolores. I met Rakan anyway because of the plot. I mean the mechanic of the game is designed this way: as you do everything according to the plot you are less likely to get attacked, When you play for the second time it will be easier.

Any tips for Lucy chapter? As I mentioned I just got to the part where she kicks you out of the room, the only source of healing is that light where the washroom usually is. I got a camera and 4 lighters (which apparently don't help with sanity at all). My issue is that... since the whole house is in complete darkness and I need to go down all the way to the basement... either the monster spawns and insa kills me, or I loose sanity so fast that I get insta killed also... maybe my camera glitched idk

EDIT: Nvm managed to beat it... the sanity system just seems to be all over the place, sometimes standing under a good source of light will skyrocket it, other times I can be in the dark for quite sometime and im totally fine, like you said... the game just wants you to follow a very specific path and in a certain order, anything else and its instant death.

[Lo Wang]

yeah, as you swerve they assault you. When it comes to Lucy's chapter, when you play again collect candles and put them right in the way you need to go and take as many pills as you can find, And don't forget that you can always run away from her. just keep running and after 5 seconds or a little longer she will dissapear, Her friend is faster but it can work as well.
Actually when you know the plot the game will get more interesting and easier.
Some people think that Dolores is not easy to escape but in fact it's not true. Well, I personally think that Lucy's friend is the hardest to escape. I know every corner of the game but he still gets me at least once in a game.

[Otomon]

Originally posted by Lo Wang:

yeah, as you swerve they assault you. When it comes to Lucy's chapter, when you play again collect candles and put them right in the way you need to go and take as many pills as you can find, And don't forget that you can always run away from her. just keep running and after 5 seconds or a little longer she will dissapear, Her friend is faster but it can work as well.
Actually when you know the plot the game will get more interesting and easier.
Some people think that Dolores is not easy to escape but in fact it's not true. Well, I personally think that Lucy's friend is the hardest to escape. I know every corner of the game but he still gets me at least once in a game.

Wait what you mean about pills? I beat the entire Lucy chapter and didnt use them once... seemed kinda useless considering you can heal sanity just standing by a light source (even tho the game says past a certain point you can only use pills), and sanity drops so fast that even if you take a pill, its gonna go down again in a few seconds....also there is points in the story where your sanity cant go down no matter what for some reason....so I really dont get the point of pills.

[Lo Wang]

No. pills can help. Use them and sometimes if you stay still your sanity can get better. Just stop for a half of a minute and watch.

[Otomon]

Originally posted by Lo Wang:

No. pills can help. Use them and sometimes if you stay still your sanity can get better. Just stop for a half of a minute and watch.

So you are saying pills prevent sanity drop? Ill try it out tonight.. just waiting for sun to go down so I can play more lol I played almost every horror game out there... Visage is the first horror game where I need to take breaks cause of how nerve-wracking it is... so technically scariest game I ever played 0_0

[Lo Wang]

Sure, especially in Rakan chapter I know the points where sanity drops and I take pills in advance. And anytime when I notice that it can happen.

[Lo Wang]

Have you started Dolores chapter already?

[Dannibal]

Originally posted by Otomon:

Any tips for Lucy chapter? As I mentioned I just got to the part where she kicks you out of the room, the only source of healing is that light where the washroom usually is. I got a camera and 4 lighters (which apparently don't help with sanity at all). My issue is that... since the whole house is in complete darkness and I need to go down all the way to the basement... either the monster spawns and insa kills me, or I loose sanity so fast that I get insta killed also... maybe my camera glitched idk

EDIT: Nvm managed to beat it... the sanity system just seems to be all over the place, sometimes standing under a good source of light will skyrocket it, other times I can be in the dark for quite sometime and im totally fine, like you said... the game just wants you to follow a very specific path and in a certain order, anything else and its instant death.

I know you said you beat it, but just for future reference (if you ever play Lucy's chapter again... personally, it's my fave chapter), there are clues as to where to go when the lights are all gone. (I.e. when you first wake up in the basement, and the lights are gone...you'll notice there's a box of light switches on the floor...if you follow them, they lead you upstairs to where you need to go; later at another part, there's scratches on the walls that you should follow to know where to go; etc. The thing is people often overlook the clues as to where to go). Also, taking pills definitely helps prevent sanity from getting too low. In fact, I never use candles... I just use the pills. As for the demon monster... you have to keep flashing your camera repeatedly in order to keep him from attacking.

[Otomon]

Originally posted by Lo Wang:

Have you started Dolores chapter already?

That is the next chapter I need to do! How hard would you say the final one in comparison? Also what is the best time to explore the house? Like I read threads that even between chapters, some enemy can come out of the walls randomly >_<

Originally posted by Dannibal:

I know you said you beat it, but just for future reference (if you ever play Lucy's chapter again... personally, it's my fave chapter), there are clues as to where to go when the lights are all gone. (I.e. when you first wake up in the basement, and the lights are gone...you'll notice there's a box of light switches on the floor...if you follow them, they lead you upstairs to where you need to go; later at another part, there's scratches on the walls that you should follow to know where to go; etc. The thing is people often overlook the clues as to where to go). Also, taking pills definitely helps prevent sanity from getting too low. In fact, I never use candles... I just use the pills. As for the demon monster... you have to keep flashing your camera repeatedly in order to keep him from attacking.

Yeah I noticed all the subtle cues.. thats why I knew were to go at all times, was just hard to actually get there with all the instant deaths lol. And interesting you both told me about the pills thing, since I avoided them as I read in a review just before I bought the game, that they were basically useless...they could had also been playing the early acess build so who knows, gonna try to do the next chapter using pills tho, btw if you didnt use candles.. what did you use? I started just spamming camera as that would randomly stop sanity from dropping... but is it worth still using past Lucy chapter?

[Lo Wang]

Yeah, a tar guy can come out of the walls from these black stains between the chapters.
Which chapter do you mean? Which is the final one?

[NovaRainns]

Lucy's Friend is a bas***d! When Lucy threw me out of her room, as soon as the standing animation was done, he appeared and killed me before I could move lol.
Anyway, whenever I heard the chase music during the "Lucy Levels", I would back into a corner and spam the camera in his direction. Eventually, he would go away and I could continue.

I didn't use any candles. I stuck with the camera, lighter, and sanity pills.

For Dolores' Chapter, when you get the sledgehammer, I seriously recommend smashing all the mirrors before doing/entering any of them. People have had issues with the sledgehammer disappearing and not being able to recover it -- sometimes reloading didn't help. I didn't experience that issue myself but that may have been why. There is one mirror level that needs the sledge that you can do after you're done with smashing all the mirrors.

If you're stuck on one mirror level, try another. You may find a needed clue or item elsewhere.

Rakan's chapter is pretty easy, but you may need to turn down your graphics settings (if they're not minimum already) as some of the cut scenes and levels can be stuttery otherwise.

Use multiple save files, especially before starting a new chapter or segment. Just in case a bug comes your way, you can reload and do something else until it's resolved.

[Lansypansy]

this game is HARD. and I mean it's hard... you just have to follow a wiki and make it through, i would say don't get a refund it so worth the time to make it through the game it feels like an accomplishment.