Literally saw Disney's crap practice and did the opposite. Good guy Steam

scared tf out of me I thought i was in trouble

Seriously, it's just another EULA change and the first they made since literally 2018.

Regardless of the reason behind this action, seeing anyone do the exact opposite of what seemingly every other American tech, media, and automotive company has been pulling this year is a breath of fresh air. Hopefully this starts a trend among the rest, but that would be as likely as finding an antimony vein in my backyard.

Originally posted by VahidSlayerOfAll:

i smell something in the works.....
can someone explain this to me in a nutshell

Looks to me like the EU got Valve to loosen up their EULA so now you actually have a legal recourse if they screw something up.

Originally posted by Apfelsin:

Is this good or bad EL5?

Bad, in that if you have a dispute with valve you have to go up against their lawyers in court...

You can have no more disputes with the company out-of-court...

Not here to comment on the legal stuff (I'm out of my depth there). Just here to say that when I clicked to 'sign' that pop-up just now, it errored out. I guess whether it registered my click and immediate agreement or not, this goes into effect in November. But yeah, the pop-up bugged out.

TL;DR: Bug report regarding the pop-up legal agreement.

I think every Modder on GTA 5 online just crapped there pants...lol

4. ONLINE CONDUCT, CHEATING AND PROCESS TAMPERING ⏶

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Steam and the Content and Services may include functionality designed to identify software or hardware processes or functionality that may give a player an unfair competitive advantage when playing multiplayer versions of any Content and Services or modifications of Content and Services ("Cheats"). You agree that you will not create Cheats or assist third parties in any way to create or use Cheats. You agree that you will not directly or indirectly disable, circumvent, or otherwise interfere with the operation of software designed to prevent or report the use of Cheats.

You agree that you will not tamper with the execution of Steam or Content and Services unless otherwise authorized by Valve. You acknowledge and agree that either Valve or any host of an online multiplayer game distributed through Steam ("External Host") may refuse to allow you to participate in certain online multiplayer games if you use Cheats or tamper with the execution of Steam or the Content and Services.

Further, you acknowledge and agree that External Hosts may report your use of Cheats or unauthorized process tampering to Valve, and Valve may communicate your history of use thereof to External Hosts within the boundaries of the Steam Privacy Policy.

Valve may restrict or terminate your Account or a particular Subscription for any conduct or activity that is illegal, constitutes a Cheat, or breaches the Steam Online Conduct Rules. You acknowledge that Valve is not required to provide you notice before terminating your Subscription(s) and/or Account.

You may not use Cheats, automation software (bots), mods, hacks, or any other unauthorized third-party software, to modify or automate any Subscription Marketplace process, the process of Steam account creation or otherwise in interacting with or controlling the processes or user interface of Steam, except to the degree expressly permitted.

So what exactly does this mean? Thats alot of stuff to read, i scanned through it.

awesome change

So when is Left 4 Dead 3 coming out?

Originally posted by Captain Electric:

Not here to comment on the legal stuff (I'm out of my depth there). Just here to say that when I clicked to 'sign' that pop-up just now, it errored out. I guess whether it registered my click and immediate agreement or not, this goes into effect in November. But yeah, the pop-up bugged out.

TL;DR: Bug report regarding the pop-up legal agreement.

yeah, it's happening to a lot of people. Can we please get some clarification in regards to the error after agreeing to the new Sub Agreement, please?!

Originally posted by VahidSlayerOfAll:

i smell something in the works.....
can someone explain this to me in a nutshell

It looks like they eschewed their arbitration clause in favor of a very specific legal jurisdiction for some reason.

W Lord Gaben.

Originally posted by ʙ ʀ 4 ɪ ɴ ᴍ ɪ ɴ 🅴 ʀ:

Originally posted by VahidSlayerOfAll:

i smell something in the works.....
can someone explain this to me in a nutshell

TL;DR: California forces digital stores to admit players don’t own digital content[www.videogameschronicle.com]

Watch out for some new fine print under the "Buy" button. :captainclown:

The only pages that should use the word "buy" on a digital store-front are those for physical goods like a Steam Deck or the Deck Dock. The game store pages should only have ever used the word "rent."