引用自 Negatrev：

引用自 GetRekt：

Or you could have just shown up at the date and time of the event. I missed it but you dont hear me complaining. Sucks but it is what it is.

You missed it, I refused to get up at 2am to watch it. We are not the same.
Maybe read the whole conversation.
I'd bet that if it was a European hosted competition, and the stream started at 8am, there'd be just as many US based people annoyed at the lack of accommodation.
Although it wouldn't happen, because European companies tend to be less insular.

Yea it sucks, but liek i said, is what it is... I would have liked to win one, but aye... Not everyone can be winners... Take care

引用自 Negatrev：

引用自 BURN DOWN：

What nonsense are you talking about? Then Valve should have used a different raffle method, you clown.

They controlled exactly when they streamed. They could've done it 4 hours earlier which would have been sociable for all countries taking part. The most important people to see the stream are influencers and press anyway. Which will all be fine watching during office hours.

They could've staged a replay stream the next day at a time-zone suited to the countries that don't fit it timing wise.
They could've spent at least 10 minutes thinking about how the competition would be received by all their markets.

They didn't do any of this because they are a US-centric business who only really cares about the US market.

Honestly, if they only cared about the US market, they would have closed it off to everyone but the US from the get-go. They didn't.

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引用自 GetRekt：

引用自 Negatrev：

They controlled exactly when they streamed. They could've done it 4 hours earlier which would have been sociable for all countries taking part. The most important people to see the stream are influencers and press anyway. Which will all be fine watching during office hours.

They could've staged a replay stream the next day at a time-zone suited to the countries that don't fit it timing wise.
They could've spent at least 10 minutes thinking about how the competition would be received by all their markets.

They didn't do any of this because they are a US-centric business who only really cares about the US market.

Or you could have just shown up at the date and time of the event. I missed it but you dont hear me complaining. Sucks but it is what it is.

Oh, a real Hero. Another handicapped gamer who didn't get it. Please, take a hike!

How is being realistic and sensible a handicap?
They announced the contest at least a month beforehand and told you the date and the time.

Seriously, stop being disgruntled just because you didn't win.

引用自 C²C^Guyver |NZB|：

引用自 Negatrev：

They controlled exactly when they streamed. They could've done it 4 hours earlier which would have been sociable for all countries taking part. The most important people to see the stream are influencers and press anyway. Which will all be fine watching during office hours.

They could've staged a replay stream the next day at a time-zone suited to the countries that don't fit it timing wise.
They could've spent at least 10 minutes thinking about how the competition would be received by all their markets.

They didn't do any of this because they are a US-centric business who only really cares about the US market.

Honestly, if they only cared about the US market, they would have closed it off to everyone but the US from the get-go. They didn't.

They essentially did close it off to everyone but North America by picking the time they did. Hence my original comment on the subject.
It would be like saying anyone can vote, then only allow voting to happen when people are working. Which would result in only the rich getting a vote (hence rules around voting).

引用自 C²C^Guyver |NZB|：

How is being realistic and sensible a handicap?
They announced the contest at least a month beforehand and told you the date and the time.

Seriously, stop being disgruntled just because you didn't win.

This isn't disgruntled people complaining about not winning. Eu people have been complaining about the time of broadcast since the day of the broadcast and competition was announced.
They're complaining that this competition has been severely skewed in favour of North America.

i really want one :D

引用自 Negatrev：

引用自 C²C^Guyver |NZB|：

How is being realistic and sensible a handicap?
They announced the contest at least a month beforehand and told you the date and the time.

Seriously, stop being disgruntled just because you didn't win.

This isn't disgruntled people complaining about not winning. Eu people have been complaining about the time of broadcast since the day of the broadcast and competition was announced.
They're complaining that this competition has been severely skewed in favour of North America.

EU "people" got nothing to complain about. The rest of Europe wasn't even allowed in.
Steam doesn't have any say in when a Show they do not run is aired. Complain to Steam about the air-time is as moronic as complaining to your tv-provider the "Oscars" was broadcast late night when you don't live in the same timezone.

I ordered a steam deck. Didn't realize there was a giveaway. woulda entered before ordering one...

引用自 Shiro：

I ordered a steam deck. Didn't realize there was a giveaway. woulda entered before ordering one...

dw you wouldn't have won. ppl say there were many bots and some watched the whole stream but steam said they didn't watch anything

Exactly. Valve gave away prizes during the game awards. They do not control the game awards nor control when they air. Once again, Steam users throwing their complaints in the wrong direction.

引用自 C²C^Guyver |NZB|：

Exactly. Valve gave away prizes during the game awards. They do not control the game awards nor control when they air. Once again, Steam users throwing their complaints in the wrong direction.

Not saying that your wrong and I don't know to much either, but honestly in back and forth discussions like that, this feels just as wrong as you say the other allegations are.

Just that one side thinks they know more.

There could have been a moderator I suppose checking in on the stream maybe?

引用自 Texus：

引用自 C²C^Guyver |NZB|：

Exactly. Valve gave away prizes during the game awards. They do not control the game awards nor control when they air. Once again, Steam users throwing their complaints in the wrong direction.

Not saying that your wrong and I don't know to much either, but honestly in back and forth discussions like that, this feels just as wrong as you say the other allegations are.

Just that one side thinks they know more.

There could have been a moderator I suppose checking in on the stream maybe?

It's very simple. People think that just because the awards were streamed through Steam TV, that Valve had something to do with it or control over it. They don't. How exactly would they have anything to do with what time the awards aired? What good would a moderator have done? All moderators do is police the forums.

That was what I got curious about, how do you want to prove your point?
I can only say I remember other streams where a moderator could have done a bit of communication there I suppose, some sort of damage control? Maybe I got the wrong designation there.

It always sounds like both sides could be just as easily claimed/proven to be wrong.

I guess nothing happens if they never say anything about this stuff themself?