KONAMI, Please slow down the online game speed or let us to choose

[ozgu]

In offline -1 game speed is pretty acceptable and game become more realistic but in online you have to play at 0 and it makes the match like ping pong game. It even do not let you perform your strategy, tactics etc. Gameplay is completely different from console beta, what a fcked up game ...

[martinkuhn]

I agree, is totally different from console beta. That was excellent. Hope they allow an option so players can opt to choose between speed 0 or -1

[Bclima]

Só tem lagueiro neste jogo bosta...

[ozgu]

This situation turns game into arcade rather than simulation. Many times the only way to scoring is while contra attack passing through ball behind the defence, or waiting for a mistake of your opponent or "AI". What a pity ...

[denPes]

Since konami will not do that, the best you can do is to play full manual and find players that play manual, so you can really play yourself.

In the default, non-manual passing way, you don't really have to think and aim precisely before you actually pass. You see one of your men (you want to pass to) for example a bit right of you, and you move your stick generally to the right. The AI will assist that ball to the man you wanted to play to.

And indeed, you don't need to do anything for it, and therefore it doesn't take any time to pass. Just a buttonpress and a more general direction with the stick. This will result in the pingpong passing you often see.

With the above, the player with the highest reactionspeed will often have an advantage. It hasn't much to do with tactics or football. It's basicly computerfootball at high speed. But ofcourse it is also a skill. The highest speed often wins.

however, If you play manual against another manual player, you are actually playing against each other. And you are playing a game that resembles the real footbal game far more.

Ofcourse this doesn't work in online competitions. But offline, and in friendlies or organized manual player competitions it works pretty well. In full manual play there is no issue with the speed at all.

[ozgu]

Originally posted by denPes:

Since konami will not do that, the best you can do is to play full manual and find players that play manual, so you can really play yourself.

In the default, non-manual passing way, you don't really have to think and aim before you actually pass. You see one of your men (you want to pass to) for example a bit right of you, and you move your stick generally to the right. The AI will assist that ball to the man you wanted to play to.

And indeed, you don't need to do anything for it, and therefore it doesn't take any time to pass. Just a buttonpress and a more general direction with the stick. This will result in the pingpong passing you often see.

If you play manual against another manual player, you are actually playing against each other.

Ofcourse this doesn't work in online competitions. But in friendlies or organized manual player competitions it works pretty well.

You're totally right, but if there is not a option like changing game speed which has huge impact on gameplay, what is the point of doing something manually ? In online, i even do not have enough time to create a strategy or playing as i wish. The only thing to score is trying your chance by passing the ball behind the defence or waiting for a mistake. I mean, this is a big issue imo and Konami do not care about.

[denPes]

If you could change the gamespeed online, that would kind of be unfair for one of the other parties, wouldn it not? Both then have to agree on a certain gamespeed.

Currently there is one gamespeed. And appearantly it is too fast for your taste. You either gonna train more on computerfootball. Or you gonna try to enjoy the game with your own settings offline, or with like minded people online.

It's not like Konami will suddenly change the gamespeed because of a few players.

I solved it by enjoy the game offline with full manual play. And I often play other people online that also play full manual. I mean if this game had fantastic online competitions, and it worked very well, it would be a real shame. But let's face it, the myclub has microtransaction system, it'has cheaters and bad connections. So you're noit really missing out by not using myclub.

[ozgu]

Originally posted by denPes:

If you could change the gamespeed online, that would kind of be unfair for one of the other parties, wouldn it not? Both then have to agree on a certain gamespeed.

Currently there is one gamespeed. And appearantly it is too fast for your taste. You either gonna train more on computerfootball. Or you gonna try to enjoy the game with your own settings offline, or with like minded people online.

It's not like Konami will suddenly change the gamespeed because of a few players.

I solved it by enjoy the game offline with full manual play. And I often play other people online that also play full manual. I mean if this game had fantastic online competitions, and it worked very well, it would be a real shame. But let's face it, the myclub has microtransaction system, it'has cheaters and bad connections. So you're noit really missing out by not using myclub.

Yes, i agree with you. I will try your suggestions. But the thing which i wrote was not about a sudden change of game speed in online. Only a option just like in offline which let us to choose the gamespeed between (-2)/(+2). That's all.

[Erectus Sol Invictus Spiritus]

This is a non sensical suggestion and made out of frustration I can smell that, what your suggestion will do is only make it harder for YOU to cope with those ping-pong passers, since the movement and defense and all that will be slower as well, remember all the ping-pong passer are doing is to simply pass and press ahead that is pro-active, they dont care much about speed, you will do even more.

The problem is the passing is too fast and unrealistic, not the general game speed (dribbling etc.), slowing down the general game speed will do nothing to this gap.

[dean Benson]

slow down any more and will come to a stop