Vek Attacking From Smoke

[Chf. Squiggy McBooty]

I'm looking for a clarification on how smoke works. I pushed an attacking vek into smoke, but at the end of my turn it still attacked. As far as I can tell, it seems like smoke should instead read something along the lines of "Units in smoke can't *prepare* an attack, but can still complete an attack that's already queued." (For the Vek, anyway). Is that correct?

[Bone_Vulture]

To the best of my knowledge a unit's actions reset if it is forced into a smoke square, cancelling any attacks. One of the pilots can ignore this effect, but I don't recall any Vek unit having the same ability. Do you remember what Vek unit it was? I'm wondering whether this is a bug, or if it's a unit type I've never seen interacting with smoke before.

[letir]

Any unit in smoke will lose ability to attack. It dosen't matter if you pushed them into smoke or created smoke by yourself. Vek attack action will be cancelled when they enter the smoke.

[Chf. Squiggy McBooty]

Originally posted by Bone_Vulture:

To the best of my knowledge a unit's actions reset if it is forced into a smoke square, cancelling any attacks. One of the pilots can ignore this effect, but I don't recall any Vek unit having the same ability. Do you remember what Vek unit it was? I'm wondering whether this is a bug, or if it's a unit type I've never seen interacting with smoke before.

As best as I can remember, it was a firefly. It hasn't happened again since I've played, so I'm going with a bug.

Originally posted by mar:

Any unit in smoke will lose ability to attack. It dosen't matter if you pushed them into smoke or created smoke by yourself. Vek attack action will be cancelled when they enter the smoke.

Well, it happened, so.

[Ail]

Never seen that happen. Pushing a Vek into smoke has always interrupted whatever attack they were doing. If it's there turn to move again, they will, of course, will walk out of the smoke to attack from a new location. Unless they are completely blocked they won't be prevented from preparing a new attack.

[letir]

Originally posted by Cpt. Squiggy McBooty:

Well, it happened, so.

This is literally impossible. Vek on the smoke title lose his attack action on this turn, and that's final. Even if you push him out afterwards, he still cannot attack in this turn.

Rustling Hulks is my prefered squad, and i know how smoke works.

[Chf. Squiggy McBooty]

Originally posted by mar:

Originally posted by Cpt. Squiggy McBooty:

Well, it happened, so.

This is literally impossible. Vek on the smoke title lose his attack action on this turn, and that's final. Even if you push him out afterwards, he still cannot attack in this turn.

Rustling Hulks is my prefered squad, and i know how smoke works.

So there are these things called "bugs." They're generally defined as when something that shouldn't happen does, in fact, happen. Clearly it wasn't supposed to happen - but it did. So - "impossible"? No.

[letir]

Originally posted by Cpt. Squiggy McBooty:

So there are these things called "bugs." They're generally defined as when something that shouldn't happen does, in fact, happen. Clearly it wasn't supposed to happen - but it did. So - "impossible"? No.

Well, considering that you are literally the only person on this forum who've got this kind of bug, and don't have any screenshots to prove it, i will stick with "impossible" for now.

[Der_Chefan]

Was it maybe a Boss Vek? I think the big spider boss can have immunity to smoke iirc.

[Chf. Squiggy McBooty]

Originally posted by mar:

Originally posted by Cpt. Squiggy McBooty:

So there are these things called "bugs." They're generally defined as when something that shouldn't happen does, in fact, happen. Clearly it wasn't supposed to happen - but it did. So - "impossible"? No.

Well, considering that you are literally the only person on this forum who've got this kind of bug, and don't have any screenshots to prove it, i will stick with "impossible" for now.

You just search "smoke" and "bug" and on the first page you find someone who smoked a beetle and it still charged. "Literally." "Only." "Impossible." You seem to have a problem with words.

Originally posted by Der_Chefan:

Was it maybe a Boss Vek? I think the big spider boss can have immunity to smoke iirc.

It was definitely one of the little ones, and not a spider (it was attacking a building). After reading the post by the guy who also had a smoke problem, beetle is ringing a bell. I'll play around with it and see if I can recreate it.

[letir]

Originally posted by Cpt. Squiggy McBooty:

You just search "smoke" and "bug" and on the first page you find someone who smoked a beetle and it still charged. "Literally." "Only." "Impossible." You seem to have a problem with words.

And you seems to have trouble with evidence. Just like your "other poster". I wonder why is what?

[Chf. Squiggy McBooty]

Originally posted by mar:

Originally posted by Cpt. Squiggy McBooty:

You just search "smoke" and "bug" and on the first page you find someone who smoked a beetle and it still charged. "Literally." "Only." "Impossible." You seem to have a problem with words.

And you seems to have trouble with evidence. Just like your "other poster". I wonder why is what?

Because even though it's a game about time travel, I can't go back in time - and at the time I just dismissed it as an oddity. I can understand how you might get confused about reality. You can't even get basic punctuation right. Just to repeat: time travel doesn't exist. In the meantime, you're literally the only person on this thread who refuses to accept the existence of bugs. It sounds like you're the one with an evidence problem.

As I said before, I'll keep tinkering with it. Maybe it can be replicated. Even if I can't, it won't change the fact that it happened. You'll just have to live with the fact that you have to burn your hand to know the oven is hot. Adios.

[FaeWilds]

If you are talking about Beetles specifically, if they've already started their charge and go through smoke, they'll keep charging. Smoke stops a Vek/Mech from initiating an attack (and cancels their queued attack), but once that attack has started, the smoke will not stop it.