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Shadow Mar 28, 2018 @ 11:57am
Most effective Team(s)
I have been using Roland, Evan, and Tami. I mostly control Roland during combat, unlike Ni No Kuni 1 the AI is ridiculously effective.

I tried Bracken in place of Roland briefly but she felt too cumbersome.

Aside from Roland and Evan, the other characters just feel unremarkable. I kept Tami in simply b/c of her plunder, which I confess I hardly ever use even with the steal ring.
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WarWeeny Mar 28, 2018 @ 12:21pm 
ai effective? lol no, they hardly do anything.
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Samurai Mar 28, 2018 @ 12:49pm 
Originally posted by WarWeeny:
ai effective? lol no, they hardly do anything.

Considering people complained about the game being too easy and went ahead proving that with laying the controller down, letting the ai do all the heavy lifting to ultimately still win major fights, shows that you're wrong.
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Thrones Mar 28, 2018 @ 12:51pm 
i always use Evan and Tani, i will rotate out Roland for what ever i feel like. :P
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Shadow Mar 28, 2018 @ 1:26pm 
Originally posted by WarWeeny:
ai effective? lol no, they hardly do anything.

Compared to the first game it's significantly more effective.
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WarWeeny Mar 28, 2018 @ 2:01pm 
Originally posted by Thanos:
Originally posted by WarWeeny:
ai effective? lol no, they hardly do anything.

Considering people complained about the game being too easy and went ahead proving that with laying the controller down, letting the ai do all the heavy lifting to ultimately still win major fights, shows that you're wrong.

Then those people are blatantly lying.
I finished the game,m did tainted creatures, dream door and what have you.
If the ai got 10 strikes in with a boss that took more than 2 minutes (which is rare to begin with seeing the difficulty of the game), that would be considered a blessing.

AI doesn't do anything most of the time, what they DO do however, is good dodging for attacks, gotta give credit for that, they are good at defending and dodging, but attacking? no, no they do not do that a lot.
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WarWeeny Mar 28, 2018 @ 2:01pm 
Originally posted by Shadow:
Originally posted by WarWeeny:
ai effective? lol no, they hardly do anything.

Compared to the first game it's significantly more effective.

i suppose so, i was too busy wrecking enemies with my pokemon to notice :P
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Samurai Mar 28, 2018 @ 2:05pm 
Originally posted by WarWeeny:

Then those people are blatantly lying.
I finished the game,m did tainted creatures, dream door and what have you.
If the ai got 10 strikes in with a boss that took more than 2 minutes (which is rare to begin with seeing the difficulty of the game), that would be considered a blessing.

AI doesn't do anything most of the time, what they DO do however, is good dodging for attacks, gotta give credit for that, they are good at defending and dodging, but attacking? no, no they do not do that a lot.

You can win normal fights by not doing anything. How can you claim people are lying when you are actually able to effectively reproduce that yourself in your game?

If they are not good at attacking how would that even be possible?
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Shadow Mar 28, 2018 @ 2:14pm 
Originally posted by WarWeeny:
Originally posted by Shadow:

Compared to the first game it's significantly more effective.

i suppose so, i was too busy wrecking enemies with my pokemon to notice :P

Sure, once you got THE OP pets (something dino, the umbral tree thingy, etc.) but before you had some variation of the optimal pets, you actually had to pay attention.
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Shadow Mar 28, 2018 @ 2:15pm 
Originally posted by Thanos:
Originally posted by WarWeeny:

Then those people are blatantly lying.
I finished the game,m did tainted creatures, dream door and what have you.
If the ai got 10 strikes in with a boss that took more than 2 minutes (which is rare to begin with seeing the difficulty of the game), that would be considered a blessing.

AI doesn't do anything most of the time, what they DO do however, is good dodging for attacks, gotta give credit for that, they are good at defending and dodging, but attacking? no, no they do not do that a lot.

You can win normal fights by not doing anything. How can you claim people are lying when you are actually able to effectively reproduce that yourself in your game?

If they are not good at attacking how would that even be possible?

Indeed, so long as the mobs aren't all 10 levels above me, I could go AFK and they will still drop.
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WarWeeny Mar 28, 2018 @ 3:09pm 
Originally posted by Thanos:
Originally posted by WarWeeny:

Then those people are blatantly lying.
I finished the game,m did tainted creatures, dream door and what have you.
If the ai got 10 strikes in with a boss that took more than 2 minutes (which is rare to begin with seeing the difficulty of the game), that would be considered a blessing.

AI doesn't do anything most of the time, what they DO do however, is good dodging for attacks, gotta give credit for that, they are good at defending and dodging, but attacking? no, no they do not do that a lot.

You can win normal fights by not doing anything. How can you claim people are lying when you are actually able to effectively reproduce that yourself in your game?

If they are not good at attacking how would that even be possible?

Oh? now we are talking regular mobs?
"ultimately still win major fights," what happened to that eh? oh right, then you would LOSE.

I would like to see a video where the AI is taking down the end boss, cmon show me..oh wait you can't? gee i wonder why...
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Samurai Mar 28, 2018 @ 3:31pm 
Originally posted by WarWeeny:
Originally posted by Thanos:

You can win normal fights by not doing anything. How can you claim people are lying when you are actually able to effectively reproduce that yourself in your game?

If they are not good at attacking how would that even be possible?

Oh? now we are talking regular mobs?
"ultimately still win major fights," what happened to that eh? oh right, then you would LOSE.

I would like to see a video where the AI is taking down the end boss, cmon show me..oh wait you can't? gee i wonder why...

That's still a thing though. Wait, i'll look for it.

Edit: Apparently only the first boss.

Anyway point was and still is the AI being effective which they clearly are regardless of being able to beat a boss on their own.

Which is verifiable btw. The AI beating random encounters on their own is a clear proof of them being effective in combat.

As for bosses being to tough for that. You're right.
Last edited by Samurai; Mar 28, 2018 @ 3:38pm
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WarWeeny Mar 28, 2018 @ 3:53pm 
Originally posted by Thanos:
Originally posted by WarWeeny:

Oh? now we are talking regular mobs?
"ultimately still win major fights," what happened to that eh? oh right, then you would LOSE.

I would like to see a video where the AI is taking down the end boss, cmon show me..oh wait you can't? gee i wonder why...

That's still a thing though. Wait, i'll look for it.

Edit: Apparently only the first boss.

Anyway point was and still is the AI being effective which they clearly are regardless of being able to beat a boss on their own.

Which is verifiable btw. The AI beating random encounters on their own is a clear proof of them being effective in combat.

As for bosses being to tough for that. You're right.

To be fair, regular enemies on same level go down in 2 to 4 hits, so it is not a real wonder AI can handle itself :P

This is not considered good ai though, dragon age inquisition for example had a vastly superior AI compared to ni no kuni II. Just saying.
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Eyune Mar 28, 2018 @ 4:52pm 
If you played the Sword Art Online games you know what bad party AI looks like. This is slight above average team AI IMO.
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Samurai Mar 28, 2018 @ 4:58pm 
Originally posted by WarWeeny:
Originally posted by Thanos:

That's still a thing though. Wait, i'll look for it.

Edit: Apparently only the first boss.

Anyway point was and still is the AI being effective which they clearly are regardless of being able to beat a boss on their own.

Which is verifiable btw. The AI beating random encounters on their own is a clear proof of them being effective in combat.

As for bosses being to tough for that. You're right.

To be fair, regular enemies on same level go down in 2 to 4 hits, so it is not a real wonder AI can handle itself :P

This is not considered good ai though, dragon age inquisition for example had a vastly superior AI compared to ni no kuni II. Just saying.

I never said it was good, i said it was effective.
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WarWeeny Mar 29, 2018 @ 1:16am 
Originally posted by Thanos:
Originally posted by WarWeeny:

To be fair, regular enemies on same level go down in 2 to 4 hits, so it is not a real wonder AI can handle itself :P

This is not considered good ai though, dragon age inquisition for example had a vastly superior AI compared to ni no kuni II. Just saying.

I never said it was good, i said it was effective.

Effective equals good you know...
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