Tonic...

[Landl0cked]

Yeah i find it pretty much useless.
40 health one time use.
When you are end game with 5000 health and enemies take out at minimum 400 health 40 just doesnt cut it.
Now my suggestion is two things
A. Not one time use-add an increasing delay before next use that way you can just span it while waiting for the next fight
B. Percentages-20% Base and goes up 5% for each higher level
I mean the four seconds of invincibility is good but not worth taking up an equiptment slot for one use.
And it doesnt replenish when you fill up your flasks either.
I dunno it was a waste of cells for me.

[Professor Freaksworth]

I agree, this is one item that in my opinion could use a re-work. The most value I ever get out of it is the sell value.

[nairobi]

It's not 40 regen, it scales exponentially with your purple/green. With regen being so expensive nowadays, tonic is the rising star of 0.6.x and the main reason red is the worst stat.

[Zornithorinque]

And don't forget that it can have a -30% damage reduction. Not negliegeable

Originally posted by alaah:

It's not 40 regen, it scales exponentially with your purple/green. With regen being so expensive nowadays, tonic is the rising star of 0.6.x and the main reason red is the worst stat.

I never play Green so I'm a bit curious: What is the value of the heal at higher level of survival ? (like 5 / 10 / 15 survival) ?

[nairobi]

Originally posted by Zorni:

And don't forget that it can have a -30% damage reduction. Not negliegeable

Originally posted by alaah:

It's not 40 regen, it scales exponentially with your purple/green. With regen being so expensive nowadays, tonic is the rising star of 0.6.x and the main reason red is the worst stat.

I never play Green so I'm a bit curious: What is the value of the heal at higher level of survival ? (like 5 / 10 / 15 survival) ?

At 5/10/15 survival you don't beed tonic.
6076 on 39 survival.

[Zornithorinque]

Originally posted by alaah:

Originally posted by Zorni:

And don't forget that it can have a -30% damage reduction. Not negliegeable



I never play Green so I'm a bit curious: What is the value of the heal at higher level of survival ? (like 5 / 10 / 15 survival) ?

At 5/10/15 survival you don't beed tonic.
6076 on 39 survival.

39 survival dafuq ? O.o

[nairobi]

Originally posted by Zorni:

Originally posted by alaah:

At 5/10/15 survival you don't beed tonic.
6076 on 39 survival.

39 survival dafuq ? O.o

I end games with 39-43 in one stat. In Castle you have at least 30+ and that's the area where you want the heal (everywhere else you can use alienation and the enemies deal like three times less damage).

[Zornithorinque]

Originally posted by alaah:

Originally posted by Zorni:

39 survival dafuq ? O.o

I end games with 39-43 in one stat. In Castle you have at least 30+ and that's the area where you want the heal (everywhere else you can use alienation and the enemies deal like three times less damage).

What is the build you are usually running with ? I suppose you accept every cursed chest as well ?

[nairobi]

Usually Promenade-Depths-Ossuary-Sanct-Sepulchre with all the timed doors. 3 stats (plus 1 from timed door) in the Promenade, then immediately to Depths at 4-5 min. One stat in Depths plus usually two curses. From there it's more slow paced. Disregarding curses, Fjord has technically one stat more (timed door), but I hate Fjord.

Today I ran Toxics-Ramparts-Watcher-Graveyard-Sepulchre with the same results. Toxics are better than the Promenade because they have a guaranteed 2-cell cursed chest. Graveyard is extremely generous.

Never go Clock Tower and yes, open all the cursed chests. And play on four cells to max out curses.

[Landl0cked]

And I read after that after leaving a biome it replenshes. I didnt play with it much after i realized i could only use it once. It was a letdown in my opinion. Besides that i have a four use flask.
Honestly im pretty bad at the game anyways lol. I always rock something that stuns or freezes. I just beat the watcher and the assassin for the first time. Great game though.